Magic Origins SPOILERS!

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Posted on June 8, 2015, 1:03 a.m. by JWiley129

MaRo's article got spoiled early, so we have some SPICY Previews with "new" mechanics!

TL;DR: Menace is replacing Intimidate & Landwalk, Prowess is now evergreen primary in Blue secondary in Red and maybe tertiary in White, and Protection is now deciduous used only as necessary.

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Souljacker says... #1

I think Alesha will be into some Blood Rites.

June 30, 2015 10:53 a.m.

Boza says... #2

Well, these are underwhelming and overcosted effects. jace had potential, but it targets only opponents. EDH at best.

Animist's awakening suffers from redundancy- by the time have enough mana to cast it profitably.

Priest of the Blood Rite is the best of the bunch - limited all star and possible standard implications with languish. 7 power for 5 mana, most of which is flying is a good deal albeit a bit vanilla.

June 30, 2015 10:54 a.m.

Rayenous says... #3

Even completely missing with "Talent for Telepathy", you still get to mill your opponent for 7... and how many decks will there be with 0 possible options for it.

June 30, 2015 10:58 a.m.

EddCrawley says... #4

Talent of the Telepath looks quite good, but the Animist's Awakening will be a staple EDH for anyone playing any amount of Green forever...

June 30, 2015 11:02 a.m. Edited.

GeminiSpartanX says... #5

I like your thinking Rayenous. I missed that the other cards went to the GY. I'm glad that this card is coming out now, since it may be relegated to bulk rare status while CoCo is in standard. It doesn't seem to play well against those style of decks, and may be overlooked.

June 30, 2015 11:03 a.m.

Rayenous says... #6

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June 30, 2015 11:15 a.m.

Rasta_Viking29 says... #7

Animist's Awakening doesn't ramp fast enough for Standard I think.

Priest of the Blood Rite is solid. Not sure it will see a lot of play but certainly has a chance because it's above curve and provides card advantage.

Talent of the Telepath is just another card like Clever Impersonator that looks cool but is mediocre in constructed play.

June 30, 2015 11:21 a.m.

6tennis says... #8

HOLY SHIT! THAT CARD IS AWESOME! Perfect in Mono-Black Aggro.

June 30, 2015 11:21 a.m.

Rasta_Viking29 says... #9

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Sweetness my T/O peeps.

June 30, 2015 11:23 a.m.

Ohnoeszz says... #10

I think you guys are misplacing the Abbot. He fits in heroic/prowess/ascendancy builds that need a balance of creatures and spells. IMO he has a bit of potential as a tempo generator.

Given the ETBs they are printing, I really hope they don't provide ways to blink creatures soon.

June 30, 2015 11:23 a.m.

square711 says... #11

At first glance, Talent looks powerful as heck. It's yet ANOTHER card that kicks control straight in the nuts. (And imagine casting this in a mill mirror match. lol)

The black dude is pretty great. Not only does he give you a flying 5/5 toy to play with, he actually demands to be sac'd! Exploit likes that.

Animist's Awakening looks to be the weakest of the bunch. Definitely relevant in Scapeshift (if a bit too unreliable), not good enough for Amulet Bloom, redundant anywhere else.

BTW, have all the mythics been spoiled already? If so, does it mean there won't be a third black Mythic? Meh.

June 30, 2015 11:23 a.m.

Card text:

, Sacrifice a creature: Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a creature card. Put that card into your hand and each other card revealed this way on the bottom of your library in a random order.

June 30, 2015 11:23 a.m.

snotice says... #13

I like this enchantment!

June 30, 2015 11:26 a.m.

JDMCRIB says... #14

I think Animist's Awakening has some potential in Scapeshift and Tron, but probably more so in Tron. Hitting even one of your Urza's when Tron is online can skyrocket you into Emrakul, the Aeons Torn mana.

June 30, 2015 11:27 a.m.

Phaetion says... #15

I like Abbot and Despoiler for an EDH deck I'm building. Here's my assessment (mostly because it will help me evaluate them better) on them in context for my deck:

Abbot: A 2-drop is good. Prowess I'm torn on. it's half noncreatures, but my chances of triggering it more than once seems like it would be situational. The real meat, however, is the CIP effect. I'm already running Prophetic Flamespeaker, and variants I could build will include Commune with Lava. It triggers once, sure, but I can swing with it, and recur it later for more shenanigans. I'll give this a try.

Despoiler: A 3/1 for BB that can't block is superb as far as my deck is concerned. What I cringe most on is the ability. Self-reanimation is great in my books, but RFG two creatures? That makes me nervous. Still pretty good.

General assessment on both: They seem good overall. I wonder where they'll end up.

June 30, 2015 11:28 a.m.

square711 says... #16

...wow. That enchantment. I-Is this love at first sight...?

What's it called? I know it's "Shinka no Hyaku" in Japanese, but I can only read hiragana, so no idea what that means)

June 30, 2015 11:29 a.m.

Holy macaroni! We have Bloodsoaked Champion and now this horror for t1 and t2? Well black/white aggro just got a huge boost.

Also that green enchantment looks supes fun!

June 30, 2015 11:31 a.m.

square711 Evolutionary Leap.

June 30, 2015 11:31 a.m.

square711 says... #19

Rasta_Viking29: thanks. Sounds pretty cool. And Simic-ish.

June 30, 2015 11:36 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #20

I am a fan.

June 30, 2015 11:50 a.m.

APPLE01DOJ says... #21

Loving the new Horror card...

June 30, 2015 11:56 a.m.

Kryzis says... #22

Standard Bloodghast with 1 more power.

June 30, 2015 noon

APPLE01DOJ says... #23

Really liking Abbot as well!

This set actually has some power behind it, might play some standard again.

June 30, 2015 12:01 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #24

The horror is a fixed Ichorid while the green appears to be a fixed Survival of the Fittest

  • fixed meaning adjusting power level to be useful but not over powering to the newer formats
June 30, 2015 12:07 p.m.

NixTheThird says... #25

The wording on the horror is throwing me off: it says return from the graveyard to the battlefeild instead of cast from the graveyard. That does not mean you can cast it at instant speed, right?

June 30, 2015 12:16 p.m.

square711 says... #26

Kryzis: not even close. Bloodghast is ridiculously easy to bring back. It's virtually a free 2/1 every turn. Despoiler is a solid creature, and the extra power is a nice touch, but it's nowhere near Bloodghast's level of ridiculousness.

June 30, 2015 12:17 p.m.

pumpkinwavy says... #27

You can return it at instant speed. You also aren't casting it, so you can't counter it.

June 30, 2015 12:18 p.m.

square711 says... #28

StuntmanTheThird: yup. Do it at the opponent's EOT and you have a hasty 3/1 for your next turn. Hence why its activation cost is so steep.

June 30, 2015 12:19 p.m.

Lhurgyof says... #29

I don't really like Animist's Awakening. In most instances, I'd rather play Foster. However, since this costs less to play and can be activated in response to being naturalized, I'm sure it has its place.

That ramp card though? It makes me moist.

June 30, 2015 12:22 p.m.

snotice says... #30

Lhurgyof: you mean to say Evolutionary Leap.

June 30, 2015 12:29 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #31

Shit I did mean to say foster. My bad there.

June 30, 2015 12:30 p.m.

square711 says... #32

That reminds me I've always had wet dreams about Survival of the Fittest in Modern. Would be best friends with Squee, Goblin Nabob.

June 30, 2015 12:33 p.m.

Lhurgyof says... #33

snotice: Yes, thank you. It's like a faster Foster that doesn't work if the creature's being sacrificed already. Which, since I run Foster in a deck that heavily utilizes sacrificing, would mean that Foster is generally better. However, since it has a lower CMC and is modern-playable, I think this one wins out over all.

June 30, 2015 12:43 p.m.

NixTheThird says... #34

Does Evolutionary Leap not just seem bad to everyone else? It isn't a permanent Polymorph, since it's putting the creature in your hand. It costs you tempo and board presence since you have to sacrifice a creature you instead of discard a creature (even tokens have a small mana cost you had to pay). You can't reliably get that one creature you need due to its randomness. It doesn't even play into gy strats since it puts the cards back in the deck.

But I guess it does filter you past clumps of lands when all you want is creatures, so there's that.

Like, I'm gonna put it in my terrible Gorgon/Snake Tribal EDH because it had a gorgon on the art (good art by the way), but I can't see this getting abused in any competative way.

June 30, 2015 12:52 p.m.

slovakattack says... #35

June 30, 2015 12:56 p.m.

What? Don't forget that you can use it in response of a spot removal/boardwipe. Getting value for just is great

June 30, 2015 12:57 p.m.

It will be run in green decks for that fact alone magnetcrocodile. If I am playing elves I need more ways than Whisperwood Elemental to deal with removal and wipes.

June 30, 2015 1:03 p.m.

StuntmanTheThird my bet is that Evolutionary Leap will be an amazing sideboard card for attrition games. Once you drop this and establish tempo your opponents will be 2 for 1'd out of the game. It can even be used to turn late game Caryatids into : draw a creature.

Evolutionary Leap is straight gas.

June 30, 2015 1:09 p.m.

Rayenous says... #39

Sac Deathmist Raptor... get any Morph creature (Like Den Protector?)... Cast Den Protector as Morph... flip Den Protector... return Deathmist Raptor to play... get another card back...

Rinse, Repeat!

June 30, 2015 1:10 p.m.

NixTheThird says... #40

Ok, that all makes sense about evolutionary leap. not bad, but quite niche it seems.

Also, don't be giving me that Christmas land reasoning of deathmist into den protector. Just as often it'll be raptor into elf :P

June 30, 2015 1:24 p.m.

SimicPower says... #41

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(Almost) Strictly better Rise from the Grave?

June 30, 2015 1:42 p.m.

Rayenous says... #42

It will only be Elf if you run Elf... only run Morph creatures, and it's going to be Morph creatures...

There's also the idea, even if not playing all Morph that when you have a Morph in play, you can sac Raptors... whatever creature your get from your Library is a bonus, and you'll be getting back the Raptors.

There are so many ways to use this effectively, you almost would have to have never played Magic before to not see some use for this.

June 30, 2015 1:43 p.m.

SimicPower says... #43

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Wow, this image is super high resolution.

June 30, 2015 1:44 p.m.

SimicPower I really did not need another reanimator card. Really, I didn't.

looks around shiftily

June 30, 2015 1:44 p.m.

Dr_Jay says... #45

That walker seems pretty sweet...

brewing intensifies

June 30, 2015 1:51 p.m.

MinscAndBoo says... #46

Nice, Hardened Scales anyone?

June 30, 2015 2:06 p.m.

JohnnyBaggins says... #47

I like this Steampunk-Theme that Kaladesh has.

June 30, 2015 2:27 p.m.

MinscAndBoo and don't forget Hardened Scales pall : Servant of the Scale...hmmmm U/G thopters anyone?

June 30, 2015 2:35 p.m.

Well it looks like legacy eternal garden decks might have found a fun card to experiment with in Animist's Awakening.

Also modern and legacy will now have access to a strictly worse but still strong Survival of the Fittest effect in the form of Evolutionary Leap this could be very interesting.

June 30, 2015 3:04 p.m.

JaceArveduin says... #50

So... Thopter/proliferate in Modern with Thrummingbird and Favorable Winds?

June 30, 2015 3:16 p.m.

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