Magic Origins SPOILERS!

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Posted on June 8, 2015, 1:03 a.m. by JWiley129

MaRo's article got spoiled early, so we have some SPICY Previews with "new" mechanics!

TL;DR: Menace is replacing Intimidate & Landwalk, Prowess is now evergreen primary in Blue secondary in Red and maybe tertiary in White, and Protection is now deciduous used only as necessary.

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Wiktul says... #1

MasterofMirrodin - thanks, didn't know that ;)

July 1, 2015 4:15 p.m.

DarkLaw says... #2

Kaladesh looks pretty cool. I'd like a Vryn article before I make up my mind, though.

July 1, 2015 4:16 p.m.

what are the odds of a Gilt-Leaf Palace reprint?

July 1, 2015 4:47 p.m.

also does anyone know if the marauder reprint is the dd art or the alara?

July 1, 2015 4:49 p.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #5

Duel-Deck, I believe

July 1, 2015 5:15 p.m.

CricketYT says... #6

subscribbiling.

July 1, 2015 6:18 p.m.

kyuuri117 says... #7

I feel like mono white devotion could be very cool. Two double white two drops, two double white three drops, archangel at four, roc at five. Just need a mana sink and a draw engine.

July 1, 2015 6:35 p.m.

Zuckfat says... #8

Fleshbag!!

July 1, 2015 6:45 p.m.

Zuckfat says... #9

Your mana sink would be heliod

July 1, 2015 6:47 p.m.

kyuuri117 says... #10

I was thinking secure the wastes.

July 1, 2015 6:49 p.m.

Zuckfat says... #11

Yeah, splash blue for card draw?

July 1, 2015 7:12 p.m.

xcn says... #12

Is Evangel of Heliod finally worthwhile in that deck?!

July 1, 2015 7:29 p.m.

kyuuri117 says... #13

Maybe. If they give us an over run effect I'll splash green for shamanic revelation and the over run effect. Otherwise might go blue. Bident of Thassa would be interesting with all those tokens.

July 1, 2015 8:02 p.m.

JaceArveduin says... #14

Nope, still too expensive, and doesn't add enough devotion by itself. The tokens also don't have haste, so you're at the mercy of Bile Blight, Drown in Sorrow, etc. Then there's the fact that if you have enough devotion to make it worthwhile, you should probably be winning.

July 1, 2015 8:04 p.m.

bretters says... #15

I would go with the white avatar over evangel... You can buff your dudes for 6 mana even exile it to buff... Forgetting its name for the moment boo..

July 1, 2015 8:29 p.m.

Soul of Theros would be a solid mana dump, good call.

July 1, 2015 9:22 p.m.

bretters says... #17

Yes that guy

July 1, 2015 9:32 p.m.

subrosian says... #18

I feel like the best mana sink for White Devotion would be Mastery of the Unseen

July 1, 2015 9:46 p.m.

kyuuri117 says... #19

Mastery is great for long, drawn out games. And maybe I'd run two. But I feel like when you're running devotion, you're really just looking to curve out and end the game.

Turn two anafenza, turn three brimaz, turn four archangel, turn five roc or soul of theros, etc.

Just powerful threats with a mana dump to go over people. Sure, it usually won't go as planed due to removal and sweepers, but that's why it's important to have them all be powerful threats by themselves. And I think we've reached the point where we finally have a critical mass of powerful white devo creatures.

Also, kytheon's irregulars would also be a good one-two of as far as mana dumps go. Great on offense for alpha swings, and on defense to stall their board.

July 1, 2015 11:25 p.m. Edited.

kengiczar says... #20

Holy crap the spider is actually good! a 6/6 for 6 with reach? Um, for a common this is one of the things I might actually consider playing.

I am also extremely happy that Blood-Cursed Knight is not only a new knight but also a vampire. So good to see a typing that supports fun tribal types other than Faeries, Elfs, Goblins, Merfolks and having two popular types that aren't overrepresented is the real icing on the cake for me.

That Blood-Cursed Knight might be yoinked right into my custom set...it just fits so damn well with my themes..at least now I can make "Vampire Knight" creatures and when somebody tries to nay-say I can show them this card and punch them for ruffling my jimmies.

July 1, 2015 11:59 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #21

New card here

Mage-Ring Responder

Artifact Creature - Golem

Doesn't untap during its controllers untap step.

: Untap Mage-Ring Responder

When ~ attacks, it deals 7 damage to target creature defending player controls.

7/7.

OH, and it's a rare.

July 2, 2015 12:06 a.m.

WARPOPE says... #22

Sigil of the Empty Throne? Is pillow fort really back? Starfield of Nyx.... wowzers!

July 2, 2015 12:32 a.m.

JDMCRIB says... #23

Hmm... the Mage Ring Responder has some potential in Modern Tron perhaps? Blows up pretty any creature in the format, and the untap isn't that much of an issue when you've played your whole hand off of Urzatron. Maybe run 1 in place of a Wurmcoil Engine, but I'm probably being too optimistic about it to be honest.

July 2, 2015 12:36 a.m.

Refocus with the new Artifact boss, anyone?

July 2, 2015 12:40 a.m.

DarkLaw says... #25

The spider is actually an uncommon, and also has vigilance.

July 2, 2015 2:15 a.m.

Zuckfat says... #26

Don't forget elspeth and kotwo.

July 2, 2015 2:41 a.m.

Zuckfat says... #27

Also, fingers crossed for phyrexian arena.

July 2, 2015 2:49 a.m.

Wiktul says... #28

And here is the guy JWiley129 described:

Mage-Ring Responder

July 2, 2015 4:20 a.m.

JDMCRIB says... #29

Zuckfat As far as I know, none of the 5 'walkers were from or first-planeswalked to Phyrexia, so there's almost no chance of Phyrexian Arena in Origins, sadly.

And it's also a really powerful card.

July 2, 2015 4:31 a.m.

Zuckfat says... #30

I know, I love that card. I just want to MBD one last time.

July 2, 2015 5:07 a.m.

Zuckfat says... #31

Besides, you don't walk to phyrexia. Phyrexia walks to you. Moo hoo he ha ha!

July 2, 2015 5:08 a.m.

JDMCRIB says... #32

Zuckfat Well played sir... (the glory of phyrexia shall be known to all)

But let's not get off topic.

July 2, 2015 5:13 a.m.

Rayenous says... #33

Interesting that there have now been 16 Mythics spoiled.

3x , 3x , 3x , 2x (3 if you count the Red mana artifact), 3x , 2x Artifact (1 if red mana artifact counts as )

I guess they squeezed an extra one in there to balance out the colors while allowing for Alhammarret's Archive

July 2, 2015 8:06 a.m.

NixTheThird says... #34

Glad to see Sigil of the Empty Throne get a reprint. Been wanting to pick one up for EDH and now it's price should just about dip into my price range.

Also, it's clear they want to give "enchantment matters" one last stab at mattering in standard before theros rotates, but what do you all think the actual viability of that kind of deck?

July 2, 2015 8:51 a.m.

Guardians says... #35

July 2, 2015 9:08 a.m.

If Starfield of Nyx's second effect gets activated, does it also enchantment creature like Courser of Kruphix, effectively making him a 3/3 and Eidolon of Blossoms a 4/4?

If so, I can imagine the chaos when someone forget the effect miscount the damage

July 2, 2015 9:15 a.m.

square711 says... #37

magnetcrocodile: that's correct. And Courser of Kruphix is a she :P

July 2, 2015 9:21 a.m.

Thanks for that, square711

honestly, this set has so many exciting toys

July 2, 2015 9:28 a.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #39

Technically, square711, Courser of Kruphix is either. It's a nonlegendary creature, which means there exist many multiple coursers in the world - it's a title, not a person. The art just represents a random one of them, but it isn't that specific person.

July 2, 2015 9:41 a.m.

Wiktul says... #40

I'll definitely try to ressurect my post-Nyx deck, based on constellation from Grim Guardian, Master of the Feast, Fate Unraveler or Doomwake Giant and so on. I'm afraid it's too slow for my meta, but maybe splash with and things like Pacifism or Eidolon of Rhetoric will help out.

July 2, 2015 9:42 a.m.

Also does anyone else excited for mono-black this set? So many great cards.

For example, Necromantic Summons is a great reanimator card. Take your opponent's dead Siege Rhino, getting back Titan of Erebos(in your grave) by discarding Despoiler of Souls to use later. Kinda far fetched, yes, but you get the point

July 2, 2015 9:53 a.m.

JANKYARD_DOG says... #42

What's everyone's thoughts of the new 4'of creatures for each color. I think those wolves would be great in a CoCo deck. The fairies are nice, esp combined with clone effects. The Zombies are ok of a bit high cost the others are meh.

Cleric of the Forward Order

Faerie Miscreant

Undead Servant

Timberpack Wolf

None for red I see yet.

July 2, 2015 10:32 a.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #43

The red one was an aura, and was spoiled at the exact same time (I think about a week ago)

The faeries aren't great - it's conditional card draw on a weak body. The Red Aura can do some work in limited, and the Wolves are going to be giant beatsticks in draft.

July 2, 2015 10:36 a.m.

Rayenous says... #44

's isn't a creature. It's an Aura. Infectious Bloodlust

July 2, 2015 10:37 a.m.

So Gideon and that Mage-Ring Responder could be fun together with the untap/indestructible ability. I also saw someone on here mention Refocus which that or other untap triggers could be super fun.

July 2, 2015 10:48 a.m.

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July 2, 2015 10:51 a.m.

Rayenous says... #47

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Interesting that it doesn't say "another creature"... it's becoming less common to see a creature that can sac itself to it's own ability.

July 2, 2015 10:52 a.m.

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July 2, 2015 10:52 a.m.

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July 2, 2015 10:53 a.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #50

Well, Izzet burn just got a new toy.

July 2, 2015 10:54 a.m.

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