Magic Origins SPOILERS!

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Posted on June 8, 2015, 1:03 a.m. by JWiley129

MaRo's article got spoiled early, so we have some SPICY Previews with "new" mechanics!

TL;DR: Menace is replacing Intimidate & Landwalk, Prowess is now evergreen primary in Blue secondary in Red and maybe tertiary in White, and Protection is now deciduous used only as necessary.

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IvoryFrost says... #1

The new land is like Sliver Hive but for Thopters, but you have to sacrifice it.

July 2, 2015 10:56 a.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #2

Yup. Protects against land flood, but six mana and a card to create two 1/1 flyers feels a bit steep.

Might play as a 17th land in draft, I suppose.

July 2, 2015 10:58 a.m.

IvoryFrost says... #3

I'm trying to figure out the artwork on Smash to Smithereens, I'm seeing a scarecrow...

July 2, 2015 11:13 a.m.

addaff says... #4

That moment when a player casts Starfield of Nyx with 5 or more enchantments & the very next turn the opponent casts Languish to wipe most of their board

July 2, 2015 11:16 a.m.

VampireArmy says... #5

Well that's the original artwork of smash is all

July 2, 2015 11:18 a.m.

GotCubes says... #6

Pretty glad to have Smash to Smithereens again. Strictly better than Shatter in my opinion.

July 2, 2015 11:19 a.m.

NixTheThird says... #7

A sac outlet with no mana cost or tapping required to use the sac ability? It has been a while since standard has had that, right? Or maybe it just seems that way. Either way, it's nice to see a sac outlet in creature form to play real nice with new Lili and Dispolier. Dare to dream:

T1 thoughtseize

T2 dispoiler

T3 Liliana, swing with Dispoiler, daring the opponent to block and activate Lili.

If they don't, t4 you repeat the dare If they continue to not block drop Husk, activate ability and get Lili activated anyway. If they do block then that four drop 5/5 is a fine blocker for planeswalkers.

I do like Christmas...

July 2, 2015 11:20 a.m.

IvoryFrost says... #8

addaff what about Archetype of Endurance

yeah super costly I know.

July 2, 2015 11:21 a.m.

bsian says... #9

Nobody talking about Celestial Flare? White just got even better in limited, and it could possibly even be used in the mono white aggro deck people have been thinking of in standard.

July 2, 2015 11:27 a.m.

Nantuko Husk reprint!!!!! Man I love all the throwbacks to the old sets that I used to play when I was but a wee child

July 2, 2015 11:31 a.m.

pumpkinwavy says... #11

StuntmanTheThird That sequence would be better with Merciless Executioner instead of the husk.

July 2, 2015 11:38 a.m.

kyuuri117 says... #12

HerderOfNerf I just saw that celestial flare reprint, and I can tell you, nobody is more excited about that than me. It was such an absolutely insane and underrated removal spell in sphinx control. Super excited to see it back, exactly what white needed.

July 2, 2015 12:01 p.m.

NixTheThird says... #13

That's another one that works in great with the deck, pumpkinwavy, and your right a better play in that specific sequence.

But repeatable sacs for free is still a nice addition.

July 2, 2015 12:04 p.m.

elpokitolama says... #14

Another rare... That wizard's gonna be the queen of limited! :D

Translation for the lazy:

type :human wizard

Whenever a creature an opponent controls becomes the target of a spell or ability you control, gain control of that creature for as long as you control Willbreaker.

July 2, 2015 12:10 p.m.

Wiktul says... #15

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July 2, 2015 12:28 p.m.

Wiktul says... #16

Freakin yeah... As close to my favourite Wing Shards as it could be.

July 2, 2015 12:29 p.m.

DarkLaw says... #17

Anyone else hyped for Disciple of the Ring? Even with the limited GY ammo (especially with Snapcaster Mage) you can really get a lot of value.

July 2, 2015 12:54 p.m.

DarkLaw says... #18

And... when did Snapcaster Mage become $82.89? Last I checked it was $50.

July 2, 2015 12:57 p.m.

kyuuri117 says... #19

DarkLaw bout a month ago.

July 2, 2015 1:03 p.m.

Wiktul says... #20

Same thing happend to Goryo's Vengeance

July 2, 2015 1:34 p.m.

luisserpa says... #21

July 2, 2015 1:36 p.m.

seuvius says... #22

Grove of the Burnwillows increased drastically as well!

July 2, 2015 1:50 p.m.

IvoryFrost says... #23

What's with all these price spikes?

I know why Snapcaster Mage went up but, was there a buy out or something else going on??

July 2, 2015 2:08 p.m.

Don't forget AEther Vial, Blood Moon, Through the Breach, Cavern of Souls, Goblin Guide, Inquisition of Kozilek, and a few dozen others I don't feel like typing....

July 2, 2015 2:11 p.m.

Oh, don't even look at Horizon Canopy today. It makes me sick to my stomach. But yeah, spoilers are awesome!

July 2, 2015 2:17 p.m.

IvoryFrost says... #27

Don't forget Mutavault guys. That card is easily going up a dollar a day.

July 2, 2015 2:23 p.m.

How about we just link to a relevant discussion on Modern prices, too much off topic spam.

July 2, 2015 2:27 p.m.

Hjaltrohir says... #29

Horizon canopy is now 99... The prices of modern now are insane.

July 2, 2015 2:27 p.m.

kyuuri117 says... #30

There is literally no reason for wotc to ever do another modern masters at this point. It's made everything that wasn't in modern masters spike, because of the assurance they wouldn't be printed for at least another two years. That's why this has happened. It hasn't lowered the entry level for modern, it's just switched the expensive cards.

July 2, 2015 2:49 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #31

Please stay on topic lads.

July 2, 2015 2:49 p.m.

Call of the Full Moon

Enchantment - Aura U

Enchant creature

Enchanted creature gets +3/+2 and has trample.

At the beginning of each upkeep, if a player cast two or more spells last turn, sacrifice Call of the Full Moon.

July 2, 2015 2:53 p.m.

Good point, kyuuri117. Back on topic - I hope a strong set like Origins will be good enough to really re-shuffle the metagame, and maybe stabilize prices on some older cards and archetypes if they wane in popularity.

July 2, 2015 3:06 p.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #35

Was that Sulfur Falls I saw in the video?

July 2, 2015 3:08 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #36

Named_Tawyny - Yes, however I think, like previous versions of DotP, many of the dual lands won't be in the associated set. E.g. Bayou is in DotP 2015 but Bayou is definitely not in M15.

July 2, 2015 3:09 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #37

Reprints I found for Origins in the Duels trailer:

Screeching Skaab, Sigiled Starfish, Knightly Valor, Totem-Guide Hartebeest.

It also seems like we're getting a 4 CMC Arrest at Common, and a 3 CMC Mana Leak at common with a spell mastery Scry 2.

July 2, 2015 3:22 p.m.

Consul's Lieutenant

Creature - Human Soldier U

First strike

Renown 1 (When this creature deals combat damage to a player, if it isn't renowned, put a +1/+1 counter on it and it becomes renowned.)

Whenever Consul's Lieutenant attacks, if it's renowned, other attacking creatures you control get +1/+1 until end of turn.

2/1

July 2, 2015 3:40 p.m.

Rayenous says... #39

Sigil of Valor -
Artifact - Equipment
Whenever equipped creature attacks alone, it gets +1/+1 until end of turn for each other creature you control.
Equip


Essentially, "Each other creature you control gets Exalted".

July 2, 2015 3:46 p.m.

kyuuri117 says... #40

They shoulda just reprinted precinct captain.

July 2, 2015 3:49 p.m.

JANKYARD_DOG says... #41

Might of the Masses

Instant

Target creature gets +1/+1 for each creature you control.

Not quiet a Giant Growth but not too bad given the right circumstances.

July 2, 2015 4 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #42

Might of the Masses is a Reprint, btw :)

July 2, 2015 4:01 p.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #43

Almost always going to be better than Giant Growth in most of the decks that will run it.

July 2, 2015 4:02 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #44

You think you can play Elves without Might of the Masses bro? Whatchu think this is?

(a joke plz no hurt me)

July 2, 2015 4:03 p.m.

JANKYARD_DOG says... #45

Didn't realize it was a reprint. My bad I suppose.

July 2, 2015 4:08 p.m.

DarkLaw says... #46

You know what? We should make a fan-made modern masters because it won't get screwed up.

July 2, 2015 4:28 p.m.

HolyFalcon says... #47

snappy, urza lands, oblivion stone, goyf at uncommon, the cycle of Gilt-Leaf Palace, zen fetches, delver, v clique, bob, lili of the veil.

July 2, 2015 4:32 p.m.

JaceArveduin says... #48

So... I'm going to have to build a super spammy deck that just gives that new equipment to Charging Badger, along with Might of the Masses!

July 2, 2015 4:37 p.m.

DarkLaw says... #49

Yep. Don't forget Blood Moon, Thoughtseize, Inquisition, Goblin Guide and every rare or mythic land ever printed that's modern legal (let's face it, it's true). Oh, and Shadow of Doubt! Did I mention Shadow of Doubt?

July 2, 2015 4:38 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #50

Yo if you wanna discuss a TO made modern masters, that's cool but please make a new thread for it. This one is for Spoilers

July 2, 2015 4:41 p.m.

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