My Theory for Eldritch Moon Characters With Cards
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Posted on April 15, 2016, 10:25 p.m. by CheeseBro
Yes I know, there are like 50 billion eldritch moon threads. This one is a little different.
My theory of characters that will ge cards in Eldritch moon:
W/U Tamiyo
Mono-B Liliana
R/G Legendary werewolf that everyone wants.
We know how much wizards loves color balance, and these characters balance it out perfectly!
Thoughts?
Liliana of the Veil would sell the shit out of Elsritch Moon!!!! Hell, I'd buy into that!
UW Tamiyo would be pretty nice. Even mono blue Tamiyo would be cool. I actually made this same thread recently, and a lot of people seem to think Tamiyo, the Moon Sage may be a likely reprint. I personally think not, but I have not to base it on outside of y own personal feelings.
I concur on the RG werewolf legend, so sure. People will clamor for that.
My personal prediction is a new Thalia. She will probably be a 3/2 this time. She will retain first strike. I think she will either still have a taxing static ability or be hexproof. Possibly a token ETB as well.
We also may see actual standard cards for Geralf and Ludevic. Maybe Gisa. There are a LOT of key players on Innistrad that haven't been heard from yet.
April 15, 2016 11:11 p.m.
What if emrakul consumes emrakul and makes the best/worst card ever?
April 15, 2016 11:28 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #5
I doubt we'll see a Liliana of the Veil reprint. If you don't think she's too powerful for this environment you clearly don't have a grasp of how powerful she is. Ever single deck in the meta would run 4 copies of her.
I hope for a new Lilly but honestly halfway expect a Liliana Vess reprint.
April 15, 2016 11:54 p.m. Edited.
With how strong Madness is, there is literally NO WAY LotV gets a reprint. It would break standard. Like, Jace the Mind Sculptor standard where they had to emer ban him. She's likely to be reprinted in MM17, because, Wizards likes money and they need to reprint a chase mythic.
April 16, 2016 12:37 a.m.
You do realize that lili would be super balanced in a format where madness is super popular right? This would be the only format where the odds of her +1 helping your opponent are extremely likely and her strongest ability, her -2 would be nowhere near as strong whenot tokens and small creatures dominatell. The friend who discussed this with me have been playing magic since alpha so I definitely think they would be a reputable source.
April 16, 2016 3 a.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #8
I have a feeling that Ulrich will be our Werewolf legend. The guy lurking in the art for Ulrich's Kindred.
April 16, 2016 3:10 a.m.
I don't get it..... we have a legendary werewolf Arlinn Kord Flip
April 16, 2016 5:35 a.m.
"Been playing since alpha" doesn't make anyone a reputable source. Your logical fallacies have no authority in fort speculation.
The thing with LotV in this standard, is you would ALSO be playing madness for her +1. And likely, the fact that you have a continuous discard outlet, even if it's letting your opponent have one too, is huge, because you're the one with the control of when and how to use her. She's not too powerful for standard, that's not what I'm saying. But "Oh madness exists so she's bad" is not a valid claim.
April 16, 2016 7:46 a.m.
ChiefBell, they want a legendary werewolf card for commander. The Planeswalker is cool, but they want a creature to play as a general.
Check out Unforgivn_II making a keen observation!
kanokarob, why was Liliana not an automatic 4 of the first time around in standard? I really think, while she is clearly insanely powerful, she wouldn't break standard in the way JtMS did. I doubt the reprint will happen, but for so many other reasons like your idea about needing a chase mythic for MM17 being pretty logical. There is the idea that Planeswalker reprints usually only happen in core sets, not blocks, but who knows since core sets don't exist. Statistically, we only get new walkers in blocks, though.
April 16, 2016 8:45 a.m.
Chief, in your opinion do you think LOTV could see a reprint in EDM?
April 16, 2016 2:13 p.m.
Uh, my response up there was my first comment in this thread. Never said a thing about MM17. Nor did I say she WOULD be broken in standard. But "Madness exists" is NOT a reason she WOULDN'T be broken. See: The last sentence of my original response.
April 16, 2016 9:57 p.m.
I definitely think a Mono-Black Lili is coming and I'm totally fine with Tamiyo being U or U/W. The question is, will either or both join the gatewatch???
I think we will see the R/G Legendary Werewolf as I feel the demand for it is comparable to General Tazri. They just want the world to wait.
I think we could see a combination of Ludevic, standard legal Stitcher Geralf & Ghoulcaller Gisa, and/or a new U/B legendary zombie akin to Grimgrin, Corpse-Born (if not an updated version of the card himself). The flavor text of several cards has already been teasing a collaboration between Ludevic and Geralf which is what I think will be this new legendary zombie!
It would be nice to see a mythic Spirit too! I'm sure we'll see Thalia and perhaps a few of the other key angels not featured in SoI.
Lastly, we'll likely see a card for whatever is affecting the denizens of Innistrad.
April 17, 2016 12:24 a.m.
PistonGolem says... #17
Well, Tamiyo would have to be W/U because 2 mono-blue walkers in the same set would be odd.
April 17, 2016 9:17 a.m.
PistonGolem says... #19
Oh God... 2 Jaces in 1 set... He must die in the next one...
April 18, 2016 12:32 p.m.
MaRo has stated the reason why Arlinn was made as a 
Transform Walker, rather than a Legendary Werewolf was so that they could better 'color balance' the Planeswalkers in the set.
The 4 Walkers we have so far in this block represent the 5 colors in the following way:
= 1 (Jace) = 1 (0.5 Arlinn, 0.5 Nahiri) 
= 1 (0.5 Nahiri, 0.5 Sorin)
= 0.5 (Sorin) = 0.5 (Arlinn)
From this, I would surmise that there will be a mono- Liliana, and a Tamiyo.
This would leave and at an additional 0.5 over the three other colors... but I think that makes sense for a block which revolves around Jace and Sorin.
This, of course, is just a guess. For all we know, there could be 3 Walkers in Eldrich Moon, throwing all this thought way off track.
April 18, 2016 2:47 p.m.
Surely they wouldn't have three Jaces in Standard at one time.
Or were you just joking?
April 18, 2016 3:03 p.m.
Argeaux, After eldritch hits, when the set after it is announced Jace will drop in price because buebye from standard, I think we'll see a new liliana since the Eternal master's might reprint her, even so, We'll see either U/W or U/G Tamiyo, R/B or B Liliana.
April 21, 2016 8:37 p.m.
CheeseBro,
I'm one of those who would LOVE to see a Legendary Werewolf for EDH. I thought is was 100% guaranteed for SOI/EMN ... until MaRo gave it an "if" rather than a "when" last Nov. :-(
Time will tell, of course ...
When will we get a legendary werewolf?
We keep a list of things we missed first time around in case we return to the same plane. Legendary werewolf is on Innistrad's list. (Dec 2014)
Am I foolish to hope for a legendary wolf or even werewolf in a future set?
Never feel bad for hoping. (Feb 2015)
...is there a chance to see a legendary werewolf ...
It is a common request and when we find ourselves in a place where we could make it and it felt right, there's a good chance we'd make one. (Jun 2015)
If/When: Legendary werewolf?
If. (Nov 2015)
May 5, 2016 1:04 p.m.
Styx1992 I don't think you understood my post, or if you did then you're not responding to it correctly.
At the moment we have 2 Jace's in Standard.
Someone theorised that there might be a Jace released in Eldritch Moon.
I responded that if there was, that would put three different Jace's into Standard at once, which I doubt.
At no point was I referring to price or when Flip Jace rotates.
They should make a Legendary Werewolf / Wolf like they did for Allies, to assist Wolf EFH Players. That would be nice.
seuvius says... #2
The liliana in the set will be a reprint of Liliana of the Veil. Obviously this is confirmed by any means but me.and many others have come to this conclusion. She was going to be printed in m15 but was too powerful due to mono black devotion becoming a thing so what better time to reprint her then when madness and tokens are every and she wouldn't be insanely strong! Now, I know they've never reprinted a planeswalker outside of core or supplemental sets but with core sets gone they can basically open up whole new possibilities! Plus lili of the Veil isn't very specific to any lore so it would fit perfectly and sell the set!
April 15, 2016 10:38 p.m.