New commander rules makes my secret weapon useless

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Posted on Aug. 6, 2020, 5:28 p.m. by Monomanamaniac

So in the before times Avarice Amulet was a staple card for me that I would run in a lot of decks. It would work well with your commander to pump up its power and enable you to draw an extra card every turn without having to worry about it dying and an opponent gaining control of the amulet. Now with the rules change this card is garbage lol

saluma says... #2

I feel that one

August 6, 2020 5:37 p.m.

But now it’s a GREAT target for Artificer's Hex. Omelettes and eggs, I guess.

August 6, 2020 6:31 p.m.

SynergyBuild says... #4

FormOverFunction sadly the opponent who gets it doesn't have to attach it to a creature...

August 7, 2020 1:33 a.m.

Monomanamaniac says... #5

saluma I took a terrible hit too all my voltron decks. FormOverFunction that is an interesting interaction, it makes you play sac a creature of you want to draw a card and pass it to someone else. It's too bad they'll never give it back to you. SynergyBuild I agree with you there, it's too bad avarice amulet doesn't say attach it to target creature an opponent controls, that would be a spicy interaction. As it is the amulet is now a dead and useless card.

August 7, 2020 5:01 a.m.

EleshNornsFs says... #6

That became the problem with my Child of Alara reanimator deck. I could sacrifice or kill it to the engine and choose whether or not to board wipe. Opponents would never know if I was going to wipe or just put it in the command zone. Now, I don't have the choice, so I just converted the deck to Meren.

August 7, 2020 9:39 a.m.

FSims81 says... #7

As someone who doesn't play Commander much at all, are there any commanders with indestructible that could help you keep your sneaky trick with the Amulet somewhat viable in those decks?

I know there are ways to still send an indestructible creature to the 'yard but it is more limited and exiling your commander wouldn't cause Amulet to switch hands.

August 7, 2020 10:32 a.m.

Monomanamaniac says... #8

EleshNornsFs that's funny because the change was supposed to help cards like Child of Alara be useful. That would be a headache because of you were in a strong position with it in play you could choose not to blow up the battlefield when it died, but now that choice is gone. FSims81 there are a few commanders that come stock with indestructible, mostly gods or Avacyn, Angel of Hope or playing voltron with Hammer of Nazahn, but it's still not full proof enough to justify running Avarice Amulet for most of them. The theros gods aren't creatures all the time and an effect like Toxic Deluge can still kill them pretty easily

August 7, 2020 6:53 p.m.

Hey, it still works just fine with Darigaaz Reincarnated!

August 8, 2020 2:25 a.m.

ClockworkSwordfish that's a great point. I don't have that commander but I'll have to think about building it lol

August 8, 2020 3:02 a.m.

Well in a happy side note Skullclamp got a huge boost from this. I actually swapped them in all my voltron decks. So now it's an insurance policy if your commander eats removal you get 2 cards to recover. As if skullclamp needed a boost but its honestly proving to be about the same value but for 2 mana instead of 6 (with equip cost)

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sergiodelrio says... #23

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legendofa says... #24

sergiodelrio Yeah, good point. Keep 'em all in one place where they don't bother anyone. Kind of a spammer zoo.

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legendofa I posted this way back in the day when they first changed the way commanders died. It doesn't bother me either way whatever y'all wanna do with it, nothing's being added, but I doubt anyone is getting hurt by it

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