NEW ELF LORD!!!!!!! ORIGINS SPOILERS!!!!
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Posted on June 17, 2015, 9:21 p.m. by CheeseBro
New elf lord!!!!!!!!
Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen
2GG
Legendary Creature - Elf Warrior
Reach
Other Elf creatures you control get +1/+1.
Whenever Dwynen Gilt-Leaf Daen attacks, you gain 1 life for each attacking Elf you control.
3/4
Are you gonna make a new thread every time a card gets spoiled? despite everyone telling you to stop doing that for the last 3 posts?
June 17, 2015 9:40 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #4
Maybe I'm the odd one, but I actually think a new thread should be started about each exciting spoiler, rather than just one big thread for all of them. Here are the reasons why:
- New spoilers shouldn't automatically kill all discussion about previous spoilers.
- Interest in one spoiler doesn't mean interest in all spoilers.
- A large thread of all spoilers limits how much a particular spoiler can be discussed.
- Lots more reasons.
OP, I think you're fine making new spoilers. My opinion may be of the minority, but one is better than zero.
June 17, 2015 9:50 p.m.
I am with MagicalHacker.
it has also been stated by Admins that threads for specific cards are allowed if its just about that one card.
June 17, 2015 9:54 p.m.
I think interesting cards that actually warrant discussion deserve their own threads. I do not think this card meets said criteria. It's an Elf lord. It doesn't have any interesting ability other than the anthem. I mean, gaining life is nice and all, but it doesn't really help your gameplan. Unless you plan to win with Felidar Sovereign. At which point I don't know what you're doing with elves.
It'll see play in Elf Tribal EDH, probably nowhere else. Unless there are a bunch of 1 and 2 drop elves in Origins, at which this can be a curvetopper in a Standard tribal aggro deck.
June 17, 2015 9:55 p.m. Edited.
VampireArmy says... #7
People have become numb to cool cards. Anthem plus restabiliy is great. Means Better blocks, better attacks, and staying alive
June 17, 2015 9:57 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #8
Well this is notable in that it's a return of something we haven't seen since like Scars of Mirrodin or something AND it's yet another legendary creature that sucks for commander (as a commander at least).
Strange, I think my personal opinion about the legendary creatures in Magic Origins is that 5 out of 7 spoiled are unexciting to me. (Better than Dragons of Tarkir, which was 9/10. Talk about disappointing...)
But that's just my personal opinion. Who knows? Someone might REALLY like Chandra as a commander...
June 17, 2015 9:59 p.m.
I personally dont read the main spoiler thread. When there is one card spoiled at a time the convo is easy to keep up with. But once multiple things start coming out at once, anything I may find relevent gets lost amongst the dozens of individual conversations going back and fourth about specific cards. So its just easier to not sort through dozens of pages of responses and not get 100 different notifications than it is to follow along.
On topic... I think any elf edh deck will want one. I dont know if its really something other elf decks need, there are other lords and lifegain is always a benefit but never a must. She does have reach which is nice. If there are enough standard legal elves then she'll be an auto include in an elf tribal deck but I think that and edh are the only places she'll really see any play.
June 17, 2015 10:06 p.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #10
The problem with starting a new thread for every new card (because every card is interesting and note-worthy to somebody) is that the forum main page only shows five threads - with hundreds of cards, it'll be difficult, if not impossible to find the thread you're after. Much better leaving it just as one.
June 17, 2015 10:09 p.m.
IM only going to make a new thread for important new cards such as planeswalkers or legendary ceratures or something very important to the set such as a new mechanic.
June 17, 2015 10:12 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #13
Choosing the lesser of two evils... I'd pick individual threads. If I need to find a particular thread, I'll subscribe to it and find it in my subscriptions, a nifty button I use quite often actually.
June 17, 2015 10:12 p.m.
HolyFalcon says... #14
G/B Elves in Limited? We have a fair share of black and green elves, and this guy puts icing on the cake.
June 17, 2015 10:13 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #15
"Official" stance: The main spoiler thread is useful for keeping speculations and chatter to a minimum. If you want to make a thread for a specific card, and especially about how that card might perform in a certain situation/format, you are more than welcome to do so. People shouldn't be telling you otherwise. That said, please do exercise discretion when choosing what and when to post isolated threads.
Now stay on topic.
June 17, 2015 10:14 p.m.
Thank you Epochalyptik!
Now on topic:
If elves are a thing in BFZ, i might try a mono green or G/B elf tribal. This card seems pretty good in standard if elves become a thing. Modern might see a bit of play, but with other 3 cmc elf lords, i wont see too much. In EDh it will see play in elf edh decks, but not as the commander. Ezuri is way better at that job.
June 17, 2015 10:17 p.m.
JakeHarlow says... #17
What a cool card. Liking its reach aspect quite a bit.
Perhaps Elves will be making a tribal return to Standard?
June 17, 2015 10:19 p.m.
@Named_Tawyny How are you supposed to find the conversation about the one card your interestrd in if they're all grouped together in one giant thing?
There is no organization to it just one response after another, not always even about the same card. The front page may only list a limited amount but people arent stupid. They can go to the spoilers forum and can see all of the threads. Its a millon times easier to look for the a specific thread than it is to read page after page in the spoilers thread to see if by chance people have commented on the card your interested in.
June 17, 2015 10:20 p.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #19
Since we're talking about this awesome card...
Dude, Elf Company just got a whole lot better in Modern. Calling it now. Legacy Elves may not use it, as it's a faster format. Definitely a bomb in EDH tribal.
June 17, 2015 10:20 p.m.
This goes in EDH quite nicely. Creature heavy metas will eat this up.
June 17, 2015 10:27 p.m.
This card can't be found using Collected Company. Now if it was 3cmc I would be all over it, but it's not. Could be a thing in standard, but I have zero knowledge of what's in standard at the moment.
June 17, 2015 10:27 p.m.
Gidgetimer says... #24
What is elf company? if it is elves +Collected Company I find it nessicarry to point out that Collected Company doesn't hit this.
There are four 3cmc elf lords that are legal in both modern and legacy (yes i am counting Joraga Warcaller as a 3 cmc lord) all with much better second abilities. It might see standard or limited play if elves becomes a thing in those formats but for non-rotating formats I find it underwhelming. It also may see some EDH play, I'm not sure if 4 cmc might not be too much for an anthem and a win moar ability.
June 17, 2015 10:39 p.m.
beakedbard says... #25
A 4cd elf lord that doesn't even have that great a second ability....i don't like him he doesn't fit in elf decks he doesn't fit in my Ezuri tiny leaders deck and i don't even think he'll be standard playable unless we get a ton more elves.
June 17, 2015 11:21 p.m.
slovakattack says... #26
This card is "Cute." The problem with going nuts over it is that there are already so many good elves out there... They really don't need non mana producing lords to be effective in EDH- giving them +1/+1 is negligible with Ezuri as your commander, and lifegain isn't really a strat to get behind with mono green.
That's really the only place I can see her being played regardless- although it remains to be seen. Maybe Standard can support her.
June 17, 2015 11:23 p.m.
I'm hoping she gets some Standard support, I think Standard Elf Tribal could be pretty fun. I highly doubt she'll see any play outside of Standard/EDH/Casual.
June 17, 2015 11:41 p.m.
could see standard and edh play, but no where else. (or no where elf LOL THE PUNS)
June 18, 2015 12:21 a.m.
I like it! I will find a place for her in my Ezuri EDH deck. Sure the lifegain is quite useless in EDH, but the anthem and reach is nice :)
June 18, 2015 3:30 a.m.
The last zendikar set had tribes, like vampires, kors and allies. Mayne there's gonna be elves? When's the last time there was an elf tribe in a block?
June 18, 2015 4:15 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #32
The last time there was enough elves to run tribal was Lorwyn/Shadowmoor. Shards, Zendikar, Scars, and RTR had ~15 elves each but that isn't enough for a tribal deck.
June 18, 2015 6:53 a.m.
Don't forget what Origin's is all about and the fact that Nissa is going to be apart of the story line. I don't know how many elves we'll see in Battle for Zendikar, but I would expect a decent amount to be in origins to help support the story involving Nissa. Weather it'll be enough to make elf tribal a thing in standard is yet to be seen. Even if there are enough elves to make a deck, unless there are others with strong abilities having one elf lord isn't going to make the deck. So I wouldn't expect it to be tier 1.... probably not even tier 2.
June 18, 2015 2:33 p.m.
Rabid_Wombat says... #34
I like Dwynen, pumped up flyers are the main way my Elf deck loses to Affinity and Infect....
June 26, 2015 8:49 p.m.
iBurgerKing says... #35
One of the better promo rares in my opinion...will probably see commander play
AwesomeName says... #2
Looks cool!
June 17, 2015 9:30 p.m. Edited.