Official Spoiler Thread: Oath Of The Gatewatch

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Posted on Dec. 3, 2015, 5:58 p.m. by ChiefBell


Official Spoiler Thread.

Have at it.

lagotripha says... #1

see earlier spoiler for goblin dark dwellers- the card he's brewing round -flashing it back from the yard.

December 22, 2015 7:57 a.m.

AgentGreen says... #2

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/12/21/exclusive-look-at-magic-the-gatherings-39-oath-of-the-gatwatch.aspx

Take a look at some of the artwork; especially the last one where you can clearly see the differences between the two corruptions

December 22, 2015 9:44 a.m.

EpicFreddi says... #3

I feel like Ulamog destroys everything he consumes, while Kozilek reconstructs it.

December 22, 2015 10:08 a.m.

greyninja says... #4

December 22, 2015 10:48 a.m.

greyninja says... #5

I think this one is really cool. Ominous, sketchy, and you can even see fish in the water! lol

December 22, 2015 10:57 a.m.

McSleuthburger says... #6

dem pictures tho

December 22, 2015 11:29 a.m.

EpicFreddi says... #7

Oath of the Matrix, amirite?

December 22, 2015 11:35 a.m.

Mackman99 says... #8

Then what does Emrakul do?

December 22, 2015 12:01 p.m.

greyninja says... #9

maybe since she flies; she never touches the ground and corrupts the air?!

December 22, 2015 12:05 p.m.

AgentGreen says... #10

greyninja the art with both Ulamog and Kozilek basically consuming the ground makes me optimistic that the Ingest mechanic is still around. We haven't seen much of Kozilek's spawn yet though, so I'm eger to see what comes out

December 22, 2015 12:11 p.m.

CuteSnail says... #11

I'm just glad that people are using her proper pronoun. I really like Emrakul. I used to think Kozilek was my favorite titan, but the more I think about it the closer I lean to Emrakul.

I'm excited to see her reappearance, whenever it may happen.

December 22, 2015 12:13 p.m.

greyninja says... #12

AgentGreen, it's crazy how they're chewing through the ground like that!

kozilek has steam, or smoke, like he's super-heating the ground and sucking away moisture, leaving crystals behind

December 22, 2015 12:17 p.m.

EpicFreddi says... #13

The spaghetti monster has no gender?

December 22, 2015 12:23 p.m.

MurderHood says... #14

@greyninja, could you upload the images differently, because they won't load for me. Neither will the link

December 22, 2015 12:27 p.m.

greyninja says... #15

"Bismuth is mainly produced as a by-product from lead and copper smelting, particularly in the USA."

"Although Bismuth is not an economical element to mine it is more commonly produced as a byproduct during the processing of other metal ores. (inc. lead, copper and tin)."

Source

December 22, 2015 12:31 p.m.

greyninja says... #16

MurderHood, in comment #933 AgentGreen put up the URL i've been using to link the images

December 22, 2015 12:33 p.m.

beakedbard says... #17

So I'm surprised this question hasn't been raised before but what happens to the land when both Kozilek and Ulamog corrupt it in the same instance? I mean in that image it kinda looks like the corruption reaches either bit then stops almost like it can't touch each other but then other bits look like they merge.

December 22, 2015 3:46 p.m.

So... Ulamog turns things into dust while Kozilek turns it into bismuth? That's so reassuring...

December 22, 2015 4:30 p.m.

IvoryFrost says... #19

So about the judge ban? That's going around kind of related to the spoilers we saw a few days ago?

everyone thoughts?

December 22, 2015 8:33 p.m.

IvoryFrost what judge ban?

December 22, 2015 9:10 p.m.

YouGotFranked says... #21

WOTC found the culprits of the massive leaks and banned them for 5 mothns. Among them were DCI judges. A S**tstorm is brewing right now, as the apps.magicjudges.org as been taken down in protest to WOTC decision.

December 22, 2015 9:46 p.m.

NarejED says... #22

A 5 month ban seems a little lackluster. I hope they press legal charges as well at the very least.

December 22, 2015 9:49 p.m.

IvoryFrost says... #23

Happened yesterday, apparently they were outed because one guy blew the whistle on who was responsible.

Personally I feel they banned everyone (the culprits got 5 months but the judges got 3 is what I heard) so the whistle blower couldn't be identified and protected (wishful thinking I guess).

If the people who released the spoilers had a non discloser agreement with wizards then I'm sure some form of legal action will be taken.

December 22, 2015 11:03 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #24

The suspected main perpetrators were suspended for 2 and 3 years, respectively. That was back on the 18th. The other suspensions on the 21st were all 3 month suspensions.

December 22, 2015 11:50 p.m.

MtgHeadquarters has 9 mythics that have beeen spoiled on his channel

December 23, 2015 8:40 a.m.

EpicFreddi says... #26

yeah, all 9 mythics have been spoiled. (spoilered?)

December 23, 2015 8:52 a.m.

smackjack says... #27

So no white mythic?

December 23, 2015 9:02 a.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #28

No white mythic kinda makes flavour sense, if the Eldrazi are taking over Zendikar.

Also, many of the suspensions were for people who never actively took part in the leaks, but who were only a part of the online community where they were leaked - regardless of if they saw them or not.

That has serious implications for places like TO

December 23, 2015 9:14 a.m.

IvoryFrost says... #29

Wait there are only 9?

For some reason I thought we were getting...15 for some reason.

December 23, 2015 9:22 a.m.

AgentGreen says... #30

Wizards came out with a release a couple of days ago explaining their reasoning for the bans

December 23, 2015 9:47 a.m.

JakeHarlow says... #31

Anybody got the link on that? I'd be interested to see it.

December 23, 2015 10:02 a.m.

AgentGreen says... #32

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/statement-concerning-recent-suspensions-2015-12-21

December 23, 2015 10:09 a.m.

As much as I hate to say this I agree with WotC

December 23, 2015 10:18 a.m.

IvoryFrost says... #34

Ah I did not see that post from a few days ago

and apparently it was not from this expansion but from others as well, interesting.

December 23, 2015 10:54 a.m.

greyninja says... #35

probably how we got this lil fella

December 23, 2015 11:07 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #36

Small sets usually get 10 mythics, so we're missing one mythic.

December 23, 2015 11:10 a.m.

Chandrian says... #37

Probably a legendary White Kor Ally - Tazri (or whatever the name of that annoying Kor is)

December 23, 2015 11:18 a.m.

kengiczar says... #38

I want to play Minbreaker Demon with some Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  Flip and Kolaghan's Command. If we're talking casual then throw in Rune Snag because it's a better mana leak at that point : P

December 23, 2015 11:19 a.m.

wwhitegoldd says... #39

If jace is in the graveyard does it count as one type (creature) or two (creature, planeswalker)?

December 23, 2015 11:32 a.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #40

Just one.

December 23, 2015 11:35 a.m.

TMBRLZ says... #41

Soo... dat new Eldrazi tho.

And Gruul Tron's new best friend

December 23, 2015 11:40 a.m.

kengiczar says... #42

Yeah Endbringer is starting to really grow on me as a commander player.

The thing is even though I almost exclusively play Tri-Color decks, without the ABUR duals, I think I could still run Endbringer or even Kozilek in any of my decks. Now that we know that both Pain Lands and Filter-Lands produce <> as well as Sol Ring, Eldrazi Spawn, and Eldrazi Scions, any commander player should be able to run at the least Endbringer.

For commander Endbringer is like another Maze of Ith except you can use it multiple times before your next untap step.

As for Kozilek's Return idk if Tron wants it but I know that I want it in all of my decks that play becauase I dislike running discard and it'sa reliable way to kill Etched Champion.

December 23, 2015 11:49 a.m.

TMBRLZ says... #43

It will be major value for Tron sideboard.

Imagine the zoo, abzan, and jund matchups. Also imagine tokens. Stompy. Anything that says "Creatures are nice."

You nuke one big thing early game and then later on when they have a larger board presence you whip out your wincon and hit the board for 5.

Seems pretty damn nice to me. Not looking forward to dealing with it.

December 23, 2015 11:55 a.m.

Argy says... #44

I like the look of that land you can turn into a Creature with Double Strike.

December 23, 2015 12:44 p.m.

AgentGreen says... #45

Endbringer could really see Standard play in devoid decks.

I think this expansion could really unleash the true power of devoid that is seriously underpowered and unable to compete with some current standard decks.

December 23, 2015 1:12 p.m.

TMBRLZ says... #46

He screams combo to me and I'm desperately in need of an Infinite Combo in Standard.

December 23, 2015 1:35 p.m.

jchudz says... #47

Also good in tron because they can dig for kozileks rise with Ancient Stirrings

December 23, 2015 3:32 p.m.

TMBRLZ says... #48

You right.

December 23, 2015 3:56 p.m.

IvoryFrost says... #49

Does Endbringer's first line of text mean both you and your opponents?

I think the wording is confusing me because I'm also thinking of two headed and EDH

December 23, 2015 4:41 p.m.

TMBRLZ says... #50

"Untap Endbringer during each other player's untap step."

On every untap step that is not your own untap Enbringer.

He still naturally untaps on your own uptap step as well.

The only way he wouldn't is if he explicitly said "Endbringer doesn't untap on your untap step." Or "Endbringer only untaps during your opponent's untap step."

December 23, 2015 4:51 p.m.

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