Official Spoiler Thread: Oath Of The Gatewatch
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Posted on Dec. 3, 2015, 5:58 p.m. by ChiefBell
Official Spoiler Thread.
Have at it.
BlastercoolWeird says... #2
oh wait, duh, you can win turn four by just casting Divination.
it's still a pretty frail combo, I think Inverter of Truth is better left to being a self-mill beatstick for standard.
January 5, 2016 2:39 p.m.
Right, this Torpor Orb deck is getting made. Now we have FOUR good creatures with it- Hunted Horror, Eater of Days, Leveler, and the new card.
January 5, 2016 2:50 p.m.
On a side note, just think of Riptide Chimera bouncing all those Oaths... not cheap flickering, though, but still...
January 5, 2016 2:51 p.m.
Can't you just cast Maniac on T3, This on T4, then Probe for the win?
No need to Entomb/Ritual/Dig/Draw... just need Maniac, Probe, This and 4 land in your first 4 turns. - Seems pretty simple.
January 5, 2016 2:55 p.m.
Rayenous Who says you can't even Noble Hierarch into those turns 2 and 3?
That budget goyf replacement. It isn't even just the 2/3 (so close to bolt resistant) vigilance that turns into a 4/5 (bolt resistant) vigilance later in the game. It isn't even the fact that you can still leave a counter open, just like with goyf. It is also the fact that he buffs your Creeping Tar Pit and Raging Ravine and... well, you get the idea.
January 5, 2016 3:04 p.m.
TheNextRedDude says... #7
Does no one care about the 5/5 trampler? I want to build mono-nothing so bad!
January 5, 2016 3:10 p.m.
Nightdragon779 says... #8
You guy's realize if you want it to be legacy, you can combo off even earlier with Paradigm Shift. AND it only requires one color.
January 5, 2016 3:10 p.m.
I think Temur or Grixis Eldrazi/Devoid decks have the potential to be very good.
January 5, 2016 3:13 p.m.
T1: Island, Mox Sapphire, 3x Simian Spirit Guide, Paradigm Shift, Laboratory Maniac, Gitaxian Probe.
January 5, 2016 3:29 p.m.
RedDiomedes says... #11
Reality smasher looks amazing to me! A guaranteed 2 for 1 against removal spells, 5/5 trample and haste! He costs 1 mana more but I think he could easily be the new siege rhino for me post rotation.
I am also thinking about a 100% colourless deck! Some very nice options. Walker of wastes (huge boost), endless one, conduit of ruin, hangarback walker etc. The problem is the lack of spell support, spatial contortion seems the only option right now. Id be interested if you have any ideas.
I suppose unknown shores, and corrupted crossroads could cover the mana gap for spells. Off theme though
January 5, 2016 3:45 p.m. Edited.
RedDiomedes You might consider splashing blue for card draw and some counters. Colorless really needs some card draw- give it good card draw and we'll be fine.
I mean, other than Endbringer (thanks, Femme_Fatale).
January 5, 2016 3:54 p.m.
RedDiomedes says... #13
There is also Titan's Presence for creature removal. If your every creature is colourless its not such a bad card
January 5, 2016 4:14 p.m.
McSleuthburger says... #14
Im going to make a Hedron Alignment deck if it kills me, though I feel Bonds of Mortality will be interesting in formats other than standard.
Now I will need to get playsets of Cliffhaven vampire and stormchaser mage....I dont know exactly where they will go but Ill try to use them
January 5, 2016 4:20 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #15
DarkLaw, who needs blue to draw and counter spells when we have the new Kozilek, the smasher, and Sea Gate Reckage? :p
January 5, 2016 5:10 p.m.
No, Drana lived. She got close to dying, but she's definitely alive.
January 5, 2016 5:34 p.m.
RedDiomedes says... #19
Just need a great 3 mana creature for the colourless deck now.
It will be worth trying it at least once just to see the face of my opponent when he plays his Sphinx's Tutelage deck
January 5, 2016 6:14 p.m.
GreenGhost says... #20
This is an odd card, then again eldrazi do weird things already and Kozilek just adds to that.
January 5, 2016 6:14 p.m.
RedDiomedes says... #21
Its quite powerful I think. If you cast it on turn 4 (maybe even 3) your opponent could have anywhere from 3-5 cards still in hand. You get to peak at his whole hand and choose the card most disruptive to your game. He gets to draw a card when it dies, but chances are you got to force a discard greater than luck and topdecking will give him back.
January 5, 2016 6:22 p.m.
I like that the opponent loses the card you take forever. But then I guess he/she should for a four mana Tidehollow Sculler.
January 5, 2016 6:32 p.m.
Firstly, Nixy is going to get Demolished by the Gatewatch.
Secondly, Zendikar and Eldrazi vs Eldrazi?
January 5, 2016 6:49 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #24
I think that Eye of Ugin art was originally in a webcomic where Chandra arrived at the Eye and Sarkhan showed her around a bit before attacking her. I'll see if I can confirm that.
January 5, 2016 7:24 p.m.
Jimmy_Chinchila says... #25
I NEED a foil Thought-Knot Seer, will look awesome. Really cool, detailed art
January 5, 2016 7:28 p.m.
TheNextRedDude says... #27
"At first I thought I had gotten rid of that card, but then I looked at the Eldrazi in my graveyard and I thought knot."
Puns! Seriously, though, the colorless curve is looking good.
January 5, 2016 7:29 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #28
That Eye of Ugin artwork is indeed from this webcomic (about 5 or so pages in).
January 5, 2016 7:36 p.m.
Rasta_Viking29 says... #30
Thought-knot seer's artwork is awesome. I'm a fan of eyes and all the color.
January 5, 2016 7:58 p.m.
Nightdragon779 says... #31
You guys think we're gonna get a corrupted version of Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle?
January 5, 2016 7:59 p.m.
With a few more supporting cards, a mono wastes aggro could be good, with eldrazi mimic, thought not seer, that 5/5 haste trampler, and the deceiver of form. Also with titans presence as 3 mana exile target creature.
January 5, 2016 8:02 p.m.
TheNextRedDude says... #33
TobyG I'm thinking more along the lines of midrange.
January 5, 2016 8:31 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #34
I am rather disappointed that so many of the Eldrazi specifically require colorless mana, and that only one Eldrazi revealed, thus far, has no specific mana symbols in its casting cost. The new colorless mana symbol is identical to colored mana symbols in that it requires a player to build their deck's manabase to work with it, rather than allowing a card with it to fit in any deck. Will WotC still be printing cards with only generic mana costs, I hope?
January 5, 2016 9:01 p.m.
Nightdragon779 that would be the best thing ever. I want a good land in standard for once :D
January 5, 2016 9:04 p.m.
DemonDragonJ yes, they'll still be printing cards that just cost generic mana. The colorless symbol is a mechanic specific to Kozilek (his thing is basically "colorless matters") so I believe it shows up often in this set because this is a set about him... I don't think the frequency with which it shows up here is indicative of things to come.
January 5, 2016 9:07 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #37
saj0219, that is definitely a relief to hear, but it also makes me wonder what unique ability Emrakul and its brood shall possess whenever they eventually reappear.
Also, I noticed that the flavor text for Oath of Chandra is different from that of the other oaths in that Chandra sound halfhearted when making her oath, compared to the resolve and conviction of the others. Is anyone here displeased with her attitude toward the oath?
January 5, 2016 9:14 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #39
MaRo has gone on record saying that the Colorless symbol will show up less (in costs) than hybrid mana costs.
January 5, 2016 9:37 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #41
Also, Chandra is a red mage who doesn't like being bound to things, but she's basically like "well, it's for a good cause so I'm in."
January 5, 2016 9:39 p.m.
IvoryFrost says... #42
Wait that card was actually legit?
I wish the quote about the hippo was actually true :(
January 5, 2016 11:13 p.m.
I think i called it on thought knot seer, its the perfect 2 drop in eldrazi control. Delayed clique effect and passes the lightning bolt test. The card looks bonkers
January 5, 2016 11:19 p.m.
The Value! It Burnsssss-OGW Standard Mardu Blue V2
Going back a lot, I've been working and testing the Goblin Dark-Dwellers based value grind deck since they spoiled it and I just decided to put it on here because the Gwellers were added to the database. Tell me what you think, its been playing incredibly in testing on Untap.in tho. Undefeated so far actually.
January 5, 2016 11:53 p.m.
Gift of Tusks is interesting... 3/3 is larger than the normal P/T that 
spells usually give for these type of effects.
Could be because it works well with prowess, I guess.
1/X with Prowess... cast this, it gets a +1/+1, then gets Base P/T of 3/3. - It's now a 4/4. - Attacking with a Monastery Swiftspear for 1 on T1 and 4+ on T2 is pretty nice.
And later in the game it can turn your opponents large Eldrazi into 'boltable' sized creatures.
January 6, 2016 12:57 a.m.
Gift of Tusks is hilarious in all the right ways. You should all watch the video spoiling it.
Also we have 
for Dance of the Skywise, so to make a creature a 3/3 is pretty acceptable.
Jimmy_Chinchila says... #1
New elf ally looks cool, Sylvan Advocate, and will fit great with the other landlords for a Temur animate deck. Now we have landlords for 2,3,4,5 cmc!
January 5, 2016 2:31 p.m.