Power level of Khans
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Posted on Aug. 16, 2014, 11:20 p.m. by biggestmtgnerd
There may be a chance that Khans will be over powered. Why? Two reasons:
One, every body on this site is complaining about the power level of Theros. If wotc wants it's players to be happy, and more power will do just that.
Two, next week, the latest developments column on daily MTG will do another skeletons in the closet. The first skeletons in the closet was created right before Darksteel was released. The affinity deck was at it's height, before the ban hammer hit it. The next one took place seven years afterwards, in 2011, the year of the Caw-Blade deck. Will this skeletons in the closet follow the pattern of past skeletons in the closet?
ExpectDragons says... #3
You realise these sets are three years in development? They dont change a how a set functions bases upon the reactions players haven't the previous block. There's simply not enough time and they're not going to just throw some cards in last minute either.
August 16, 2014 11:34 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #4
Personally, I think Theros gets a lot of flak for being a weak set, which I agree with, it's not very powerful compared to RtR, but look back at the list of previous blocks before Theros. Return to Ravnica, Innistrad, Scars of Mirrodin, Zendikar, Shards of Alara, with Alara being perhaps the weakest. Those were all pretty powerful blocks, even Alara. I figure Theros could be getting a lot of power hate because the last "weak" set was (if my math is right) 6 years ago. The bigger the expectations and hype mount, the bigger the chance it will fail to live up to those expectations.
August 16, 2014 11:39 p.m.
I'm sure Khans will be just like Kamigawa. Because all Asians are the same.
/sarcasm
August 16, 2014 11:59 p.m.
unholycookies says... #6
@kmcree As an asian, I take offense. As a magic player, you're right.
August 17, 2014 12:24 a.m.
Like I said, I was being sarcastic. All I see everywhere is people comparing Khans to Kamigawa. I just don't get it. Other than the Asian influences, they aren't similar at all.
August 17, 2014 12:26 a.m.
Nigeltastic says... #9
I think Theros gets a ton of flak it doesn't deserve. People who complain about its power level are the same people who loved Innistrad. It is a "weak" set because it has very little for eternal formats. It is a strong set in my opinion because standard was healthy, fun, and had a relatively low barrier to entry, compared to some other times. I think the power level will be similar to Theros, it seems to be more in line with how they are wanting the game to be played, they are getting away from the bonkers nutso standard formats, as it tends to scare away players/make it harder for new players to join.
That said, it's probably too early to speculate, as we see 3 cards of it so far. In ~2 weeks spoilers start, then we can really start talking.
August 17, 2014 2:29 a.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #10
I don't see how a Standard that is dominated by one deck (MBD) and sees very little change for a full year is a "healthy" Standard. You know what made ISD/RTR Standard so great? Almost every week a new deck was the best in the format. For each set that came out from M13 to DGM, at least one new deck archetype was born.
August 17, 2014 3:24 a.m.
biggestmtgnerd says... #11
You guys realize I was joking, right. Did you really fall for thinking that I really thought that skeletons in the closet was an accurate indicator of an unrealised set? Of course, if even one card from Khans gets banned in standard, I will laugh my head off.
August 17, 2014 8:35 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #12
Oh hey spoilers already. Should I start making the sets and cards now?
August 17, 2014 8:39 a.m.
Yeah I'm not really sure how you can say this standard format was healthy. It's been the same 3-4 decks for the last year. Almost nothing has changed.
August 17, 2014 12:49 p.m.
unholycookies says... #14
This standard is stable is what I think he means. But a standard full of chaos is a fun standard. It's like playing modern, basically 20 decks running most of the same staple cards, first game who knows what deck you're playing. That was the best part of that time....Everyone was brewing nonstop!
August 18, 2014 3:42 a.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #16
Honestly, this is the only reasonable topic on the power of Khans I've seen so far.
August 18, 2014 5:25 p.m.
I just hope Khans brings in cards that allows for combo to come back. Since we lost Innistrad's reanimation engine, the best (note: only) combo deck out there has been Maze's End . And now control is tough to run because everything else out there is aggro. Makes for a stale Standard. Theros replaced Innistrad, that's why most of us feel Theros is weak. I don't think the power of the set itself is weak, I think it's a really boring block.
JWiley129 says... #2
There may be a chance this is premature. Why? Two reasons:
1.) We know next to nothing about the set/block of Khans, so this is kindof pointless.
2.) "Skeletons in the closet" is unlikely to be a signifier of a set's strength. R&D is very careful to make those kind of mistakes again.
Now more on topic, the fact that Khans is a 3-color set means that we'll have some decent lands to make the mana easier. Plus Morph makes casting more expensive or mana intensive creatures easier, which means some creatures can be pushed. I'm on board with Khans being more powerful than Theros, but idk if the reasons you listed are enough.
August 16, 2014 11:31 p.m.