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Posted on Dec. 18, 2014, 3:14 a.m. by Haxxzor

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shinobigarth says... #1

yeah i mean jeeze, Black Lotus sucks then i guess, only 3 mana? why can't we have a 0 cost card that gives us 4 or 5 mana of any color when we sac it?!

December 28, 2014 4:22 p.m.

sylvannos says... #2

As far as I know, Yu-Gi-Oh doesn't have formats. They just rely on new printings and bannings to keep the game alive.

Magic separated itself into two formats years ago...Type 1 and Type 2. This allowed Magic to keep the game fresh and available, especially to newer players, while allowing older, more experienced players with larger collections to keep using their favorite cards.

But in YGO? Why bother buying new cards when you already own Black Lotus and Ancestral Recall? Oh, that's right...they just made a Mox Lotus that costs 0 and an Ancestral Recall that draws 5 cards. And they banned Force of Will, Thundermaw Hellkite so they could sell the set with Mental Misstep and Stormbreath Dragon.

YGO's game imbalance is directly related to their reasoning for how to sell product.

December 28, 2014 4:57 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #3

Their problems are actually directly related to the high power level.

December 28, 2014 5:20 p.m.

shinobigarth says... #4

different formats only make the game overall better. if you don't want to play in a format where high powered stuff like the Power 9 is legal, you don't have to. if you'd rather just play standard where you only have to worry about a small amount of playable cards, go for it. not having different formats is just plain stupid, as is the power creep which apparently YGO has a big problem of. Magic R&D understands that and is very cautious about making new cards that push the boundaries of power, one reason why theres always a lot of junky cards that suck. which is one reason even more formats like pauper exist, to try and get use out of cards that otherwise don't ever get played.

December 28, 2014 5:29 p.m.

sylvannos says... #5

@ChiefBell: ...and that power level is due to not otherwise selling boosters because their formats don't rotate. They have to up the power level or no one would ever buy new cards since they'd already own the equivalent to Black Lotus, Ancestral Recall, etc. In order to get packs to sell, they have to ban existing powerhouse cards while printing better versions of what isn't banned.

Magic doesn't have that problem because we have different formats and sets are mainly designed around Limited. My guess is that if YGO separated itself into different formats, they'd be able to eliminate many of the game's problems, especially the high power level.

December 28, 2014 5:31 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #6

But its ok. We need to be saved from the nerfs.

December 28, 2014 5:34 p.m.

IndepenentMeta says... #7

Here let me give you guys some inside on the black lotus card. Orginally before lands and mana were understood as the same thing. So wat black lotus use to do is get you three lands into your mana pool. Then some little duckweed complained that it made decks too fast and now your stuck with the crappy thing you call black lotus now.

December 28, 2014 6:14 p.m.

IndepenentMeta says... #8

@northraven yeah go ahead and have fun with that lol

Anybody got any remarks that might add something useful to the conversion. I prolly have one.

Currently I'm running sultai. So I decided I'm pretty well off with him on my squad at one. I was disppointed he couldn't be a 5 drop but none the less he still looks like a sturdy member. Plus making him work would be a tricks shot for the lady's

December 28, 2014 6:19 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #9

Lolwut. I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but now you're telling us that you worked with Richard Garfield? You're nuts.

December 28, 2014 6:20 p.m.

The_Raven says... #10

Please, dude, just stop. Obvious trolling is obvious. It was fun at one point. But now.... Meh. Now, make yourself useful. Grow up. Make useful comments. Just do something useful instead of being an irritating troll. It can't be fun to just troll. And even less fun when people know that you are trolling.

December 28, 2014 6:21 p.m.

What format can I run black lotus in? Is that modern or legacy able?

December 28, 2014 6:22 p.m.

Says the guy that thinks stormbreath should be a 2 drop. What a troll!

December 28, 2014 6:24 p.m.

Ugh this time around its Richard Garfield..... I wouldn't say worked with him but that is my create a card. Which is why I'm so upset he's a 7 drop instead of a 5 drop. Even some of my friend here from the area I'm from remember me talking bout him... But eh it's whatever. I'm just happy that he's on the board, just like polukranos and Olivia before him

December 28, 2014 6:27 p.m.

pskinn01 says... #14

Mana and lands were never the same thing.

Black lotus is only vintage legal.

December 28, 2014 6:27 p.m.

Sometime around when the game was made they were then some dick weed said lands arent mana they produce mana

And thanks man would u happen to know any Kool deck list in vintage?

December 28, 2014 6:31 p.m.

lemmingllama says... #16

There are lots of great Vintage lists. Check out the vintage top 8's here.

December 28, 2014 6:34 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #17

Delusions of grandeur, disorganised speech, and disorganised thinking are all signs of schizophrenia. Don't do drugs kids.

December 28, 2014 6:40 p.m.

The_Raven says... #18

I seriously don't know what to do. When a troll is becoming so bad, that it gets boring.... Well, I don't know what to say.

Listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml0Mtgw0mQk

Let me quote: "How can I try to explain, when I do he turns away again.It's always been the same, same old story."

"I was once like you are now, and I know that it's not easy,To be calm when you've found something going on.But take your time, think a lot"

"You're still young, that's your fault,There's so much you have to go through."

"Make this decision alone"

"It's hard, but it's harder to ignore it."

Now, listen to that song. Figure out what it is about. Until you have figured it out, I don't think you should comment on anything.

//Peace out

December 28, 2014 6:44 p.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #19

What in the actual?

December 28, 2014 6:53 p.m.

I'm digging metal worker

December 28, 2014 6:56 p.m.

shinobigarth says... #21

oh thats right, this is the same kid that Wizards forgot to pay for creating Bloodsoaked Champion.

December 28, 2014 8:53 p.m.

Sounding a little better thanks man. I'm actually looking for a way into dimir

December 29, 2014 12:01 a.m.

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