Secret Lair Ultimate Edition
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Posted on March 14, 2020, 12:51 a.m. by Rabid_Wombat
5x Enemy Fetches for $200...pretty steep for non-foils. But boy oh boy you do get a huge "display case" with the cards to make it seem like you attained something that may approach hundreds of dollars in value!
Available only at PREMIUM ranked WPN stores which neither of my local game stores are lol so much for WotC helping out my locals.
So this is the new normal for Wizards..they gotta take that money from the secondary market somehow. Get ready for Secret Lair Revised Duals next year ;)
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/making-fetch-happen-secret-lair-ultimate-edition-2020-03-13
I just saw the TCC video about this. All I got to say is....YES PLEASE!
March 14, 2020 3:34 a.m.
The packaging is a joke from an environmental standpoint. Huge box of air to take shipping space and 5 hard plastic cases for 5 cards?
March 14, 2020 8:34 a.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #5
This is ridiculous; why could WotC not simply reprint these cards in a "normal" set? Do they not care about keeping this game affordable for the average players?
Also, why did they choose only five fetchlands? Could they not have put all ten fetchlands in this set, for that outrageous price?
March 14, 2020 8:59 a.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #6
Also, here is a live link to the announcement of this set.
March 14, 2020 8:59 a.m.
DDJ most mtg products are huge boxes compared to what they should be.
March 14, 2020 12:51 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #9
shadow63, I was not speaking of the physical contain for this set; I was speaking of how only the very wealthy shall be able to afford these cards, which is very bad, because they are cards that are both powerful and vital to many formats. I cannot help but wonder why WotC does not reprint cards more frequently, to keep the prices low. They make no money from the secondary market, so they have no good reason to withhold reprints and keep cards expensive.
My top three most desired reprints are Rhystic Study, Vedalken Orrery, and Akroma's Memorial, all of which are great for EDH format and are much more expensive than they should be, in my mind, so I cannot understand why WotC has not reprinted any of those cards, recently.
March 14, 2020 2:44 p.m.
Rhystic Study was just re printed in the mystery boosters
March 14, 2020 4:02 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #11
shadow63, it was reprinted, but not in sufficient quantities to lower its price, which is the entire reason for reprinting cards in the first place; if the prices are not lowered, why bother reprinting the card?
March 14, 2020 4:11 p.m.
They clearly work hard to maintain any existing high card prices while doing any reprints. I was sad to see the likely price for these lands is about 40$ per card, but 0% surprised. They don't want to devalue their cards at all while reprinting them. Its much easier to sell a product that has desirable and valuable cards in it.
March 15, 2020 2:12 a.m.
Rabid_Wombat says... #13
Rzepkanut exactly. And this way Wizards don't have to rely upon creating innovative game mechanics and better storylines to make bank.
March 15, 2020 5:43 a.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #14
Rzepkanut, if that is the case, why should we, the players support such a lazy and greedy business model? If WotC wants our money, they need to earn it, in my mind.
March 15, 2020 9:30 a.m.
Having the best resource cards in our game be some of the most hard to attain and expensive cards is not just a coincidence: it was planned from the beginning because resource cards are essential for playing the game.
The most irresponsible thing Wizards has ever done to this game (other than the reserve list) was making all of the best multi colored lands in their game be so hard to get. We should not be clamoring to get dual lands or fetch lands we should be excited about acquiring unique rare cards that do cool powerful effects. Land should not be a concern to collect, premium multi lands should have been plentiful since alpha.
It just seems like a lazy and greedy game design decision to force the average player to weaken their Mana base unless they buy a ton of cards. Making essential resource cards be chase cards feels irresponsible.
March 15, 2020 11:15 a.m.
MindAblaze says... #17
If expensive cards that players want stay expensive, game stores make more money (rather than those cards going down to less than the store bought them for;) if game stores don’t make money, they don’t buy product; if they don’t buy product Wizards doesn’t make money. It’s not in wizards best interest to devalue the investments of their primary consumers ie: the stores.
March 15, 2020 8:30 p.m. Edited.
DemonDragonJ says... #18
Rzepkanut, I fully agree with that; manabases are the foundation of every deck, so the fact that they can be expensive is utterly ridiculous.
MindAblaze, I, personally, believe that individual players are more important than are the stores, since they are the ones who spend the most money on the products as well as being the ones who actualyl play the game.
March 15, 2020 8:58 p.m.
This is obviously a premium product not meant for the common player. Do we really want fetchlands to be cheap and affordable? I sure as hell don't, even premium reprints like this that are meant for the "whales" will decrease the price of fetchlands. It would be like if they decided to add The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale Bazaar of Baghdad The Abyss Mox Diamond Black Lotus and the rest of power 9 along with making all of the original dual lands, fetch lands and shock lands common cards and putting all of that into a unlimited print run set for standard. Some cards need to be extremely rare and hard to get a hold of and permenantly expensive and rarely or never reprinted again to ensure that not every player can just have them in every deck they own. I think that is a big point of this that some people are missing is that they are not reprinting this as some common card like you want it to be for standard, it's for the whales and I for one cannot wait to spend, even as much as $250.00 to get my hands on this collection. Heck, give me an extra two weeks and I will three 350 at it to get my hands on it. It is going to look amazing as a display piece and the arid mesa is done by my favorite land artist.
March 16, 2020 12:11 a.m.
fadelightningmm says... #20
As someone who enjoys the game and who has some expensive cards I would absolutely love for all cards to be reasonably priced and reprinted. The fact that a secret lair which to this point have been a print to demand product is A) limited and B) more than $165 is ridiculous. Honestly I think this feels like WOTC saying that they hear what the community wants but it’s not what they want, but we will do it if you pay the right price. To me this was an opportunity to reprint fetches in a way that was meaningful and accessible to all. The print to demand of secret lair allowed everyone who wanted the product to get what they desired.
The LGSs getting a piece of the pie was not something I was too worried about. Most LGSs near me gauge the prices a ton anyway to the point where one of them barely does mtg anymore due to their own mismanagement. Secret lair wasn’t a product line for the LGS they should have called it something else at the very least.
The price of singles is also complete BS to me. The price tag of this product makes me want to bow out of magic now with the lack of meaningful reprints and the over saturation of products. This is obviously more a me thing than anything else, but cmon WOTC literally printed money if they put it at a $50 price point. I probably would have bought 4 in that case. I know they mentioned another reprint but this seems like a problem all the same
March 16, 2020 4:42 a.m.
Does nobody understand reprint equity? Reprint equity is a resource WOTC has that is depleted with every single reprint. The more a card is reprinted, the less desirable it becomes. Thus, WOTC has to be very careful with their reprints in order not to run out of them. For example, Imperial Recruiter was a 200 dollar card prior to its reprint in the Masters set. Now, it is worth a quarter of that and will likely not be reprinted again in the next 10 years.
Enemy fetchlands have the highest and most volatile reprint equity - they are the most desirable reprints, but getting too many of them out there will tank the future reprint value of the card. So, making new art and a new scarce distribution model will not upset the reprint equity, while satisfying some of the demand.
So, is this jerk move by Wizards? Yes. Is this is a smart move by Wizards? Also yes.
March 16, 2020 5:09 a.m.
DemonDragonJ & Rzepkanut. My playgroup consists of 30-some old white males (lawyer, charge nurse, CS web designer...etc), I guess what I'm trying to say is that the lifeblood of the game was built on a different demographic & it is not a smart business model (for the future) to narrow your market demographic to a few aging collectors (& mid-management), would I be sad to see MTG go the way Pogs & so many other collector hobbies did? not really, I'd still have my monthly game group. Outpricing the mana-BASE (core component) of the game has made it incredibly lame for new/young blood, I personally would love to see more family members, young'n, minorities, & ladies coming to the tabletop, but when you play & are told this fetch land costs >$50 & you still need HOW MANY more of those?... That is my rant from experience. Diversity is ready for the game, but the game is not ready for diversity. & yes totally agree that reserving & raring the base resource for the game was a bad idea. Sure, some cards can be double-digits, & they WILL be regardless of synthetically driving them up.
March 16, 2020 8:41 a.m.
Gleeock, are you saying that a luxury hobby is expensive to get into? I, for one, am shocked! MTG is the most diverse luxury hobby out there - not only are more formats in MTG than all other TCGs combined, but all of these formats are affordable, except for tournaments.
Modern format is not aimed at "new/young blood", but "older/enfranchized blood", as is this product. No "new/young blood" player would consider buying 5 cards, when you can literally go to an LGS and get decks for free/draft chaff for free/entry-level products for much less than this. There are other formats and products for those consumers.
There is literally no other competitive game with some many points of entry as MTG for "new/young blood". Pauper, commander and pioneer and even modern with some decks are great entry points where a full-power deck can cost you half as much as this product (or 5 decks in the case of Pauper).
March 16, 2020 8:56 a.m.
Oh and more thing - the company to blame for overpriced fetches are not WOTC. It is SCG and ChannelFireball and CardKingdom, who set out ridiculous buylist prices for fetches when Modern was announced and hoarded the now coveted product. The current fetch prices are mostly a result of buyout at the format's inception, which has retained price memory and strong demand to keep it afloat.
March 16, 2020 9:07 a.m.
Exiled_soul says... #25
This kind of junk is why I don't play paper magic anymore.
March 16, 2020 9:25 a.m.
We should also remember that before Khans the allied fetches were all between $50 and $100 USD and now 6 years after there reprinting and being introduced into Modern are still post standard rotation holding between $15-$25 USD. WOTC printed them into a standard set and there price tanked and has not recovered even with More formats opened to them, More players, and More demand. WOTC said they won't print fetches into a standard set again but that I'm sure will change as more big events move to Arena (shuffling no longer an issue) but they will do better not to over support mana bases to repeat Khans standard of 4-5 color decks being all of standard. WOTC can't officially talk about the secondary market and we know that (agree or not this isn't the topic at hand). But they are obviously aware of it and make decisions based on it... that is the topic at hand. The secondary market is a real thing like it or not. Your LGS has to turn a profit and where they turn there profits are on re selling singles. Not from selling packs, why because as long as Target and Walmart can sell packs the LGS has to under cut there prices otherwise the majority of us would go to Target to get our packs and yes as much as Limited Resources tells us to not just crack packs we all do it from time to time (okay you who is about to comment an that point doesn't and your in the minority and you know it). The LGS if they were to sell packs only they would have less staff because less work for employees but also not enough money because the profit margins on packs is not much. If I remember right the LGS makes about $20 per box, so each box sold keeps one person employed for an hour (after overhead)… if that. Short of a sets release you don't see boxes flying off the shelfs. Events don't turn much profit as most the entry fee rolls right back into prize support so how does an LGS keep it's doors open and a good sized staff? Singles and in order for singles to be that to the LGS they must have a mark up and not be high rarity $2 USD cards that they paid $1.50. How many of those do they need to sell to just keep one person working at the store? And that doesn't take into account the time they were buying the cards for the store, sorting the cards, and the cards and employee just sitting there not making money.
In short a lot of people are mad that cards have a lot of value... well not value they cost a lot for them to get but money has to be made by people in order for this game to stay around and not just money for WOTC. Could WOTC do better. I'm sure they could but they have a lot to consider beyond just make the cards cheaper.
One last thing, in this same announcement that seems to be overlooked, the WOTC representative also did state fetchlands will be reprinted in a non standard set again this year. Based on that it will ether be Commander Legends or in commander decks. Both cases will be vary good and makes this reprint here a luxury item with in a luxury game much like the other secret lairs or the expeditions of previous sets.
March 16, 2020 10:53 a.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #27
Boza, is that the reason for which WotC has been so miserly about reprinting cards such as Rhystic Study, Vedalken Orrery, and Akroma's Memorial? I care less for "reprint equity," as you phrase it, and more about this game being affordable for all players, old and new.
March 16, 2020 5:50 p.m.
I don't fully understand that staunch opposition to MTG being more than a cult-luxury hobby... To each their own I guess. I'd rather have a tabletop cardgame that I can connect with my nephews with or speak with a more diverse group with & that is probably a lot of people. Pervavita that is a less miserly & clannish way to look at it for sure. & as DemonDragonJ says, it is a frustrating barrier to entry for the manabase to be exorbitantly priced & this extends to goofy, pet eternal cards as well. I can pick apart how these prices are a real "barrier to entry" but I don't want to type a wall of text. More importantly, I just need to gauge new player reactions at my table & run off experience from my always-expanding playgroup. Experience tells me, at least in EDH, average price is a large barrier & more experienced players are normalized to this... it is not so with the other crowd.
March 16, 2020 8:25 p.m.
DemonDragonJ, exactly! Reprinting any card prevents it from being reprinted for a certain time, until it becomes desirable again. These specific three have other problems - they rarely fit in a set it is hard to fit a mythic 7 mana artifact that grants a bunch of keywords into most sets, especially one that is named after a famous angel. So, a general set like M21 could include it, or a reprint specific set like the new Mystery Booster, which does include Rhystic Study.
Wizards does not get money from the game being affordable, but it does get money from hype about a new product coming out - exciting reprints with high reprint equity are a very good way to generate that hype.
March 17, 2020 4:43 a.m.
For example, lets say WOTC reprinted Vedalken Orrery at rare in the next standard set, tanking its price to one tenth of its current one. Once you have several copies of that card for a fraction of the previous price instead of tens of dollars, will you ever want to see that card again? Probably no. Once you have no need for a card, you have no desire to purchase product specifically for that card. That is the essence of reprint equity and that is why wizards is striving so hard to retain what few they have left.
March 17, 2020 6:18 a.m.
One more comment from someone else on the topic. Grabbed from this article:
"Problem is, WotC can’t just print millions of copies of everything and call it a day. The more copies of a given chase card enter the marketplace, the greater the chance that its price will tank. And not only does WotC not want people to lose faith in the value of their collection — how else can they sell you on next week’s Secret Lair? — they would also lose out on the ability to use that card as a selling point in some future product. Think of it like trying to build a wind farm versus drilling for oil. WotC can cash out once if they reprint a $30 card and it tanks to $1, but they can excite you with the same $30 card over and over again if it only drops to $15 before slowly starting to rise again."
March 17, 2020 6:34 a.m.
Gleeock, MTG is accusable to other players outside of just the rich. I guess we would need to set standards to go with that wording just as we would for luxury... So with that said I would say anything that is outside necessity is a luxury (getting a Netflix subscription, going to the movies, getting a pet, buying a game). So yes MTG is a luxury and it will stay that way.
I know the point your bringing up is affordability and that is the point many people here have. Nothing requires anyone to buy all expensive cards to sit down and play and enjoy the game. You have with in MTG so many formats at all kinds of price points for people to get into and even in many formats that are more expensive you can get into and play on the cheap (relatively speaking). Pauper you can build a vary good deck with sideboard for like $50 USD, PEDH your at about $50 as well. You can build a EDH deck that is probably around a 5-6 for $100 if you do some research and have a collection that just happens to fill some gaps (I'm not even talking expensive cards, just your random cards you have). Not every deck you build has to Tier 1 and by current standards $1,000+. If you want it build to it, prioritize it, make smart trades and sell other cards you don't need/want. The game has to maintain $ value. No one is going to spend $4 on 15 cards when the most expensive card they can get from the pack is $.50. That spells the end of cracking packs so stores have less product on the shelf and that would by it's nature raise prices of cards due to supply and demand but we would still see WOTC sell what 25%-50% less packs? Limited would then be the only way new cards would be opened.
I'm not saying no reprints I want to be clear on that and I do want reprints of value. What I am saying is we should not tank the prices as there is a lot more here then just our wants now that must be considered. Peoples jobs and this game depend on that.
March 17, 2020 10:29 a.m.
I would ask for moderation though. Hobbies are debatably a luxury by definition, sure... The problem comes in when new players are rolling their eyes on a price check on random pet cards & when you are a little bit embarrassed about the price of cardboard hobbies. In addition, when a simple mana base (a base piece to singleton format decks) starts to become a recognizable cost-impediment, then to a certain extent, yes it is causing a barrier to the new player base. The MTG "luxury tax" is all relative (as you say what are the standards of luxury?) but I caution that experienced & nostalgia players look at that with a different set of goggles on what acceptable luxury tax is & this generally accepted cost of luxury can be dangerous to outside perception & expanding your player base, especially when you are talking about circles of people outside of the LGS & outside of an experienced MTG group.
March 17, 2020 1:37 p.m.
Oh I know the cost even though I have played for years my self off and on again but in addition to this I have three children who all play (or at the least did at one point, it's just not cool any more) and they have friends as well that play. As such I know cost is a limiting factor but the flip side is why we have the reserve list to start in the 1990's with Chronicles and then again (new issue) with Fallen Empires where there was just no value to cards and you could buy a pack of this set for $.75 for 8 cards. The value of this set being non existent made there no profit to be had from the set. It's hard to think of this now as MTG is so large and has been around for so long but during this time MTG almost went the way of the Wyvrn.
The mana base is expensive but this is really only for a vary narrow field of cards that span formats. Even these fetchlands that this whole conversation is about are far from required for nearly any deck. I play EDH, Modern, and Pauper. I own only one copy of one of these Fetchlands myself that I was lucky enough to crack in a pack. My Modern mana base is one that I took years to craft and with little exceptions is nearly ideal for many 2-3 color decks that I use off colored fetchlands and at Modern events I have done well enough to have fun and win prizes. You don't need the best/most expensive cards to have fun and win. Do they help, well yes obviously but not required.
March 17, 2020 3:01 p.m.
Ah yes, sounds like you are a dinosaur like me. That: "its just not that cool anymore" is what I've noticed, & what I would be concerned (I use that term loosely :) ) about if the game becomes too directed at whales & becomes too much of a cult following.
March 17, 2020 6:16 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #36
Boza, I do not wish to sound callous or uncaring, but all that matters to me is that I can afford the cards that I seek; if WotC wishes to have my money, they need to make the cards that I desire affordable.
March 17, 2020 10:02 p.m.
DemonDragonJ, you can probably see that approach cannot be applied for all of Magic. Like, all the people collectively want every single card reprinted. So, there is no product in existence that will satisfy everybody, so it is a tighrope balance.
With all those posts, I am just trying to explain why stuff costs so much and why you would not care for the game if costed less. The value of any card game is what defines how popular it is, the less expensive you cards are, the less popular you are. All the dead TCG's rarest cards cost less than commons. Nobody clamors for draft chaff reprints. Mystery boosters sell not because they have foil One with Nothing, but because they have Mana Crypt.
The value of the card is essential for reprint products.
Strangely enough, those fetches, despite their price are affordable. At 40$ a card, how many games do you expect to play with that card? From then on, pretty much every single game with that deck. Thus, playing this deck at any tournament, will get you 10 plays per tournament for example. If you play in 4 tournaments with that deck, this card will cost you $1 per play. Once you factor in how this card enables all the rest of your deck, the value of this card skyrockets. Fetches really make a 60 card constructed or even a 100 card singleton deck tick.
The thing is, the amount of value, provided you play regularly with those cards, is much more than 40 bucks. People are somehow unable to see beyond that number and fail to realize that value is not just that number.
March 18, 2020 7:57 a.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #38
Boza, in your mind, what is the best way to ensure that this game remains affordable to the players?
March 18, 2020 8:22 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #39
The game is affordable. Nobody is making you buy fetches for your casual decks. If your experience of fun is dependent on winning, then you will weigh the pros and cons of playing more money or getting out/changing your expectations.
That being said, I hope they put fetches in a commander product that isn’t somewhat along the lines of the Commander’s Arsenal product. It’s also the stores responsibility to not gouge their loyal customers because “somebody will pay it.”
March 18, 2020 10:09 p.m.
Affordable is a very relative term. Nobody is making anybody buy anything.. I get that, but in an eternal format it is hard to stomach seeing multiple $20-$40 cards & then the more experienced player-base kindof shrugs at that, this is not how you obtain new loyal customers. I just keep pointing out that the definition of "affordability" has had a dual nature in this game. For me (accounting for nostalgia factor) the game has been affordable for many reasons. For newcomers, boy I get the wide eyes, & why even bother if the most efficient, least hoop-jumping basic building blocks for this game feel like a barrier to entry? Regardless of whether or not it truly is a barrier to entry, the perception is there. Nobody wants to enter MTG playing nerfed MTG-lite & feeling like this would take a lifetime to change (or may never happen).
March 18, 2020 11:05 p.m.
I have won FNM at my shop several times with below 50 bucks modern decks with 0 fetches. Yeah, this is an important part of the game, but far from essential and nobody new is turned off by fetch prizes. New players are encouraged to get planeswalker newcomer decks, the free 30 card decks at the LGS or other various cheap alternatives. And even those players get excited when they open an expensive card in the random booster they got.
Card prices work both ways - when you open a card worth $ you get excited, but when you find out the price of an expensive staple you wanted, you are less excited.
It is almost as if the game is an investment and long time players have 2000$ EDH decks, in which they have invested 10 bucks a week over 4 years to get. I think it is insulting and devaluing that effort and commitment that any schumuk who just learned how to play can enter the store and complain about how they cannot afford that. In all cases, neither did the experienced player.
March 19, 2020 3:48 a.m.
The experienced player that paid maybe $1,000 less a year ago than the new player would because the whale market is growing stronger than ever? - & this bleeds out to a whole lot of pet cards as well. Investment is good, but there is such a thing as moderation as well. I could give not a crap if my duals, shock, etc devalued if it meant I could share the game with more people & less people immediately say; why bother? Otherwise, you end up being some dude in a poorly lit room, clutching your cards, & sounding like Smeagol. It is sad that the expected norm comes with such a high price tag & so many players are brainwashed to think continued $$ is such a great thing for the game's health.
March 19, 2020 8:27 a.m.
I should say continued $$ hike. Collector hobbies do have a bubble & when that bubble bursts then it is byebye. I mean, I already have my cards, high-end stuff from years ago when triple digits would not be an expected norm for a refined EDH deck. So it is not me being butthurt about cards I don't have, I have or can get whatever I want. It is more repeated observation that nostalgia, while it will get you far, does not work on the new player base. Even $4.00 boosters is pushing it. I guess there is always proxies... Which I am a big fan of, but it usually doesn't feel the same to those players.
March 19, 2020 8:35 a.m.
The argument for cards maintaining value to me centers around profits and not just for WOTC but also for the LGS. If WOTC were to reprint cards like crazy then the LGS will go away as there is no incentive for them to invest capital into expensive cards that they may sit on for too long and have the value printed out from under them. I understand your argument is that lands cost too much, well back when I started you got a random assortment of basics mixed into your starter decks and if that wasn't enough basics for you then you had to go and buy basic lands to fill out your deck. I'm glad this model has changed but this didn't drive players away that I know of.
Even then you can buy lots of non basic lands that for 2+ colors that are <$1 and many will even give you a benefit like gain 1 life. If you get into the $2-$4 range we get into the range of Scry (once standard rotates TBD out) and some other Duels from past sets. As you go up in price range you do get more options. The point is as has been said before you don't need to spend a lot of money to play or build a mana base. There are budget formats and budget options for cards. As long as there are better versions of cards there will be a range of value.
Could WOTC do better with reprints? I think so. Can they reprint expensive cards into the ground? Yes Should they? No, it would have far too wide an impact if they make it too far flung.
It's a balancing act they have to perform.
March 19, 2020 10:38 a.m.
Well said, Pervavita!
Just one comment, regardless of profit (which is simalar for all people on the secondary market of cards - LGSs, players, big stores like SCG), the overall card value represents brand trust. People enjoy magic and want to see Magic succeed, thus the more expensive magic is the more popular it is (provided no changes in the supply of cards and discounting general inflation). So, if the game is expensive, it means people like and play the game, which is ultimately the best, since no people = no game.
If you want to blame someone, blame SCG and the other big stores, which set the prices. Their buylists are what dictate card prices in general. If they want to corner the market and buyout a card, they will. The only solace is a player-driven market like MagicCardMarket and even that is not perfect.
In short, there is no solution to the game getting more expensive. However, there are faint slivers of hope:
I owned a full deck of Legacy Death&Taxes that I sold a few years ago. I put the list in a website that automatically tracks the prices of the cards and sends me an alert. Over these years, the deck has lost more than 1/4 of its value, specifically thanks to reprints. So, there is hope.
Pervavita says... #2
$200 USD feels steep but if we do the math for the MM3 we have: Scalding Tarn = $73, Misty Rainforest = $70, Verdant Catacombs = $66, Marsh Flats = $37, Arid Mesa = $34.
If at $200 each set that makes each card is $40. That makes really only one fetchland that is over priced but saves you $80 per box (if you were wanting all of them).
Now it is expensive but it still is a good deal per the value.
Do I wish the cards didn't have this high value? Yes because I would like to own them but the flip side is with out them having value there is less desire to own some cards. We all have the desire and excitement when we get an expensive card and it is a natural feeling. It's the exact reason many players crack packs. With out this value you don't sell as many packs and it also harms the LGS in singles where they make a majority of there money.
March 14, 2020 1:24 a.m.