So I heard you like Mana Ramp, C14 Land.

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Posted on Oct. 27, 2014, 12:57 p.m. by JWiley129

Well this isn't a Cultivate , but it's close to a Burnished Hart .

Pretty good for mono and 2-color decks imo.

Goody says... #2

Pretty darn slow though, comes in tapped and by paying "three" mana you're netting one tapped land.

October 27, 2014 1:05 p.m.

jr92_2000 says... #3

Would have been interesting if not for the "basic land" clause.

October 27, 2014 1:13 p.m.

CastleSiege says... #4

Burnished Hart is better because you don't need to tap it and it works in reanimation strategies. This land is a bit too slow for my taste.

October 27, 2014 1:14 p.m.

shuflw says... #5

you guys never heard of Krosan Verge ?

verge was better as it allowed for mana fixing, but mana ramp that doesn't cost a spell slot is very good. this is great in commander decks that don't play ramp colors.

October 27, 2014 1:22 p.m.

Rayenous says... #6

I was wondering why it was worded the way it was... then I realized that you can get a basic land and it's Snow-covered counterpart... (i.e.: Mountain and Snow-Covered Mountain )

If they were to have stated "Two basic lands with the same name", this would not be possible.

October 27, 2014 1:22 p.m.

cklise says... #7

It's a decent generic version of Krosan Verge (minus the ability to grab shocklands). More options are always nice.

October 27, 2014 1:23 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #8

jr92_2000 - I think you mean it would've been INSANE if it wasn't for "basic land" clause. "Sure, I'll sac my Myriad Landscape and grab my Temple Garden and Sacred Foundry tapped EOT." That's WAAAY too good.

October 27, 2014 1:25 p.m.

jr92_2000 says... #9

@JWiley129 Would it really be too good? You're waiting at least one turn and paying two mana to do it.

October 27, 2014 1:41 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #10

jr92_2000 - I'm not saying that would make it Legacy playable, but grabbing both an Underground Sea and a Volcanic Island for 2 mana and sac 1 land seems good. Even if they ETB tapped.

October 27, 2014 2:07 p.m.

jr92_2000 says... #11

@JWiley129 Yeah, it would be quite good. I don't think it would be busted if it could grab the duals though (given the time and mana requirements).

The card just looks nerfed to hell by including the basic land clause. I could see them being careful if this were going into a standard set, but this is EDH/legacy/vintage only.

October 27, 2014 2:32 p.m.

Rayenous says... #12

Crucible of Worlds just found a new best friend...

...and with various Landfall abilities, it could be insane.

I think that's the reason for limiting it to Basic Lands.

Besides, they are being released in mono-color commander decks, so I think the Basic Land concept is on-theme.

October 27, 2014 2:47 p.m.

erabel says... #13

If your deck absolutely requires the untapped mana every turn, and runs no basics, this card is too slow or too bad to be playable. In nearly every other case, it's a pretty good card. I'd slot it into mono-blue and -white decks, and maybe a slightly slower red one, in a heartbeat.

Pretty obviously not gonna define Legacy play, but it's nice in Commander.

October 27, 2014 2:52 p.m.

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