Sorin, Grim Nemesis
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Posted on March 18, 2016, 12:17 a.m. by Lord_Magikarp
Is it just me or does this card look broken You get a Bob effect for +1 except to them I wanna build Esper Control with him so badly
http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/sorin-grim-nemesis/
I've been testing an Esper superdriends deck. 15 planeswalkers with Sorin topping the curve. 100% busted. Been playing on untap and I'm 13-1 with the deck now after losing one match against a current standard rally deck. lol
Sorin is MVP. Serious power. His +1 is a wincon on its own for goodness sake!
March 18, 2016 1:03 a.m.
yeah him in WB control/tokens is going to be busted playing almost no creatures then play gideon then ob nixilis then sorin thats insane
March 18, 2016 2:03 a.m.
PhotogenicParasympathetic says... #6
My friend already has an Esper super friends deck, and she's twitching. Like, actually has a physical twitch because she wants this card so badly.
March 18, 2016 2:39 a.m.
iBleedPunk says... #7
Im looking at this for my pet Ghave, Guru of Spores EDH. With Doubling Season he ults right away and creates 80 1/1 Lifelink tokens and Sorin survives the ult. I know PWs are judged by their first two abilities rather than the ult but...
...Doubling Season exists in EDH lol
March 18, 2016 2:40 a.m.
captainawesome3 says... #8
Super awesome card, can't wait to pit it in my B/W EDH deck, but that art is just ugly. Wish it didn't look like a paper cutout on a random background.
March 18, 2016 8:18 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #9
Is there any good reason for which Sorin's second ability cannot target players? That severely limits its usefulness, in my mind.
March 19, 2016 11:18 p.m.
Probably because they tested that ability and it was too strong? Wizards spends a ton of time testing these cards for Standard, and a 6-mana deal 6 to the face card in White-Black was probably too strong. Plus that'd be a 12 point life swing, nearly impossible to come back from.
March 19, 2016 11:23 p.m.
JWiley129 Actually wizards has said themselves they only really test cards for limited past that they hardly test cards at all even for standard they just hope their testing in limited will be enough that nothing is too broken in standard
March 20, 2016 12:27 a.m.
The Future-Future League (FFL) definitely tests out standard to make sure it's not busted before they release a set.
March 20, 2016 12:28 a.m.
EmblemMan - You're confusing Wizards not testing for Modern with Standard. They have the FFL, the Future Future League, where they test future Standards. I'll just leave a few articles here where Sam Stoddard, developer in Magic R&D, goes over old FFL lists.
March 20, 2016 12:30 a.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #14
JWiley129: I am sorry that I need to ask this, but how is dealing 6 damage considered a "12-point life swing?" From where is the other 6 damage coming?
March 20, 2016 6:04 p.m.
DemonDragonJ - Sorin's -X is "deal X damage, you gain X life", so if you deal 6 damage you also gain 6 life. 6+6=12, hence a 12 point life swing.
March 20, 2016 6:07 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #16
JWiley129: yes, I see; you were referring to the fact that it would cause there to be a difference of 12 between the two players' life totals.
dan8080 says... #2
Oh trust me I'm already salivating about exactly that. You don't even have to do anything else for the rest if the game at that point after you resolve him.
March 18, 2016 12:45 a.m.