Thraxes?
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Posted on Sept. 25, 2015, 4:14 p.m. by electromancer
Thraxes- The super awesome legendary dragon, who sired Spawn of Thraxes, who's dreams make mountains rumble and spit Magma Spray, who's master, Purphoros, God of the Forge calls him "a lazy, good-fer-nuthin' mutt." Thaxes, when are we ever going to meet this big, sleepy, procreating dragon?
I other words, just how long in advance do Wizards (not so subtly) hint at cards they plan to print in the future? Also, when do we expect to revisit Theros again, or is that not how it works anymore? I don't fully understand how the new block system works with story lines.
We just had Theros, so it will probably be 6-7 years before the return..
September 25, 2015 4:18 p.m.
Probably no return to Theros anytime soon, but I could probably see him getting some sort of non-standard printing, like as a backup commander in a new Commander set or some sort of Conspiracy-esque release.
September 25, 2015 4:29 p.m.
I assumed Thraxes whas a mountain. Which now seems silly
September 25, 2015 4:43 p.m.
seconding Sloanan could potentially see print in the RW or RU commander 2015 deck in november
September 25, 2015 5:09 p.m.
electromancer says... #7
Sloanan I could see that happening as well similar cards, and kanofudo, one can only hope. As FAMOUSWATERMELON points out the dragon could just be abandoned, which I'm afraid could also happen similar to how the boar god the Gruul worshiped was never printed. The Theros block sold exceptionally well so I don't expect them to abandon it. Starting from Zendikar there was a straight forward pattern of new cycle, return cycle, new, return, etc. up until Khans which broke that pattern so yeah... not sure what that means but I do feel a return to Innistrad first would be more appropriate along with two more new planes. So as smackjack stated 6-7 makes sense based on the past.
However looking at the blocks seen here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets
I'm thinking there could be a tighter story turn around rate, since these blocks turn over much faster. So maybe as soon as 2018? Which I'm sure Wizards would have the patience to wait for Thraxes until then.
September 25, 2015 5:22 p.m.
Wizards does this all the time. Sometimes they are hints toward the future, and other times they create characters that are just apart of the story. If a character is important enough to the story (especially with the new story telling) they may actually see print as a card. Other times they're just interesting characters. Now, I'm not saying Thraxes is unimportant or insignificant because he hasn't been printed on a card. Maybe he was supposed to be but as things were changed was forced to be cut from the set. Maybe he'll be important to the story later on (Gideon being from Theros) and sees print at that time. Maybe they have a return to Theros planned sooner than we expect because of the new story telling aspect so he see's print in a set like that.
This is what leaving some characters open ended like that does. They can use them as "hints" towards the future as the story line advances and they need to be relevant again, or they can just be background characters. Basically, it gives them options as they're designing a set and as they plan for future sets.
September 25, 2015 5:23 p.m.
electromancer says... #9
lol NecroPony you made me second guess myself until I reread Magma Spray. Oh well, it would've been funny if Thaxes was a mountain.
September 25, 2015 5:26 p.m.
mathimus55 says... #10
electromancer pointed out something super important: with the new direction and block structure Wizards has stated their going to we could expect Theros to come back sooner than later. With the emphasis on linear story telling and flow they might start tying things in together better than before.
I personally don't think they would kill off one of their most popular planeswalkers with such an open story arc without plans to return to it soon. I have no idea when for sure but I'm excited to see how the new transition to story focused block to block transitions go. Unless all the cards turn out as derpy as BFZ that is
September 25, 2015 5:53 p.m.
electromancer says... #11
mathimus55 I'm pretty sure that's one of Zendikars major themes though. I'm remember when first Zendikar block came out, the most memorable reactions to the Eldrazi titans was spontaneous eye-rolling.
Back on topic, do you know where Wizards stated anything in regards to linear story telling? I've been looking for an explanation of the structure of new lore in relation to the new block format.
September 25, 2015 6:26 p.m.
Rasta_Viking29 says... #12
Considering that Ajani is on Theros is raising support to go at Heliod and we are being inundated with "Gideon is from Theros" lore I bet we head back there sooner than later. WotC will bring back Elspeth. Maybe 2-4 years.
September 26, 2015 10:46 a.m. Edited.
Chances are you may never see this character become a card. I Still want to see a Leshrac card :(
September 30, 2015 2:07 a.m.
electromancer says... #14
Well that's depressing. It doesn't seem fair they didn't print Leshrac. However I think most planeswalkers from that time and before were never printed. There's lots of odd-ball planeswalkers in the lore that most people have never heard of.
September 30, 2015 2:28 a.m.
Triforce-Finder says... #15
Could be a year, could be several, could be many. Here, for comparison:
- Lucent Liminid, released in Future sight on May 4, 2007.
- Heliod, God of the Sun, released in Theros on September 7, 2013.
The deity/dream theme (lucent) and the "enchantment creature" types place Lucent Liminid in Theros for sure. Between that hint and Theros, six years went by. To top it off, the fact that Lucent Liminid refers to a sun goddess might mean that the set it belongs to is not even the last Theros block, but the one when we next return to Theros... Hehe, maybe Elspeth will return, kick Heliod's butt and take his place, who knows.
Long story short, don't hold your breath. It will probably come, but only the gods know when that will happen.
October 3, 2015 3:30 p.m. Edited.
TheNextRedDude says... #16
Because you said that:
Elspeth, the Renewed Sun 4WW
+2: Put two 1/1 white Soldier enchantment creature tokens onto the battlefield.
-1: You gain 1 life for each enchantment you control.
-8: You get an emblem with "Each non-Aura enchantment you control is a white Soldier creature with "this creature's power and toughness are each equal to the number of enchantment's you control" in addition to their other types.
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October 3, 2015 5:35 p.m.
electromancer says... #17
@Triforce-Finder That's pretty interesting, I've never seen that card before. I never knew there was a hint about enchantment creatures to come.
Unless "Helo" is the name of a goddess, I think your onto something. After all, Heliod is hellbent on making Elspeth learn her place and I have a feeling Elspeth isn't going anywhere. So she could probably turn the tables for plot reasons and stuff.
By the way here's the article about "Helo":
http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/292
@TheNextRedDude Interesting, but from past examples, planeswalkers who become Gods are legendary enchantment creatures:
Xenagos, the Reveler->Xenagos, God of Revels
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #2
I seriously doubt that we visit Theros anytime soon. Which means that it will be a while until we get a Thraxes card, unless he suddenly is significant to the story (which seems very unlikely). So no, it's only coming in a long, long time (if ever).
September 25, 2015 4:18 p.m.