Ugin, the Spirit Dragon

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Posted on Dec. 25, 2014, 12:43 a.m. by He_Who_Seizes_Thoughtseize

Merry Christmas from WotCUgin

-Fulcrum says... #2

December 25, 2014 12:46 a.m.

Slayne says... #3

The repeatable Lightning Bolt is nice, but he just seems a little lackluster to me. Eight mana is quite a bit for what he does.

I could see him maybe seeing play in Tron, but I doubt it. Karn is just better there.

December 25, 2014 12:51 a.m.

-Fulcrum says... #4

He comes out a bit late, but can be ramped into, though not as easily as Karn. He only takes two activations of his +2 to ult, and then he survives his ult, which is just awesome. And his +2 is Lightning Bolt. No wonder he's an 8 CMC. And he's a repeatable boardwipe. I doubt he'll see Modern play alongside Karn, maybe not even Standard play (except in some Fringe strategy, could be good in MGD), but I'll be playing him in EDH. He'll definitely be going into my Ob Nixilis deck.

December 25, 2014 12:55 a.m.

almerican says... #5

I think he will see play in Standard Control considering there is no need to splash for color. Unless, colorless becomes a big thing. That ultimate seems very good for control... I might be playing a fair amount of black for Hero's Downfall soon.

And that exile effect!

December 25, 2014 1:02 a.m.

Spootyone says... #6

Jeez this is gross with doubling season...

December 25, 2014 1:08 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #7

I think my Vorel counters deck officially is now Simic Superfriends with Teferi, Temporal Archmage and this guy. Holy BALLS.

December 25, 2014 1:09 a.m.

saltyk says... #8

how do you guys think he will stand in the tron archtype in modern?

December 25, 2014 1:10 a.m.

ItchiUchiha117 says... #9

I love how his ult is literally the exact opposite of Bolas'.

December 25, 2014 1:14 a.m.

-Fulcrum says... #10

@saltyk: I imagine some players will experiment with him for a short bit, but I doubt he'll stay. At 8 mana, he doesn't come out T3 like Karn, and none of his abilities let you just win the game (except the ult). He's very strong disruption, very control-y, but I don't see him anywhere other than EDH.

December 25, 2014 1:15 a.m.

I love this guy. His ult makes me think the bolas we get will be a reprint of Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker. Still, though, I think this guy is powerful.

December 25, 2014 1:16 a.m.

JA14732 says... #12

I kinda want to play him, but I don't want to make the deck to build around him...sigh.

December 25, 2014 1:17 a.m.

almerican says... #13

@ JA14732: hahah, First World Problems

December 25, 2014 1:21 a.m.

VampireArmy says... #14

Hey look Tron just became a thing again

December 25, 2014 1:22 a.m.

Ceres1 says... #15

I play pretty much solely casual, with a whole mix of modern and EDH and fun stuff and I just want to say this will be great in casual. In my playgroup, if you run a card you have a way to get it out efficiently and this will be a fun threat. I look forward to playing with and against this.

December 25, 2014 1:30 a.m.

saltyk says... #16

i honestly see this card being played over Karn Liberated not only does it hit more than one permanent it wrecks bogles, affinity, and could prob do some damage against merfolk.

December 25, 2014 1:32 a.m.

VampireArmy says... #17

Also had to comment about his ult literally being a reverse Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker ult Flavor Flavor Flavor

December 25, 2014 1:33 a.m.

JA14732 says... #18

On second thought, welcome to Mayael, Ugin! I'm sure you'll love some of the things you can help me with with that ult, and the supplied Doubling Season should help you out.

December 25, 2014 1:36 a.m.

I will play this card. If I can get a copy or two... Sad UB Control player is sad due to monetary issues.

Oh, and he is literally (if you read the text on the card, that is) everything UB Control even needed: repeatable removal/a clock, a boardwipe, lifegain, and card advantage... And ALL IN ONE CARD. Yes. Much Yes.

December 25, 2014 1:41 a.m.

Spootyone says... #20

Real talk time: could this be a finisher for control? Maybe once speth is gone? Maybe not because of pearl lake?

I could also see him in green devo or just ramp in general. The fact that he can immediately clear the board is pretty awesome. Idk...maybe its just not gonna make it.

December 25, 2014 1:44 a.m.

subrosian says... #21

His +2 is Ghostfire, not Lightning Bolt. :D

December 25, 2014 1:48 a.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #22

Okay, I'll start adding cards now folks.

December 25, 2014 1:51 a.m.

Now that's awesome. Decent from a playability standpoint, amazing from a flavor standpoint.

Now who read the next article? Fetches from KTK can be in FRF packs like shocks were in DGM! Too lazy to source it.

December 25, 2014 1:53 a.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #24

December 25, 2014 1:54 a.m.

Clarification: in place of basic lands. Also reprints of the ten etb tapped and gain a life dual common dual lands. That can replace basics too.

December 25, 2014 1:55 a.m.

Thanks Femme_Fatale, I'm on my phone and meh, linking.

December 25, 2014 1:56 a.m.

thuzra says... #27

I HAVE BEEN WAITING OH MY GOD.

I CALLED IT ONCE KHANS CAME OUT.

THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPY.

Also I am 100% brewing around him. This will be great. My best wishes to anyone who wants to snag one or more on Prerelease night before he's a $40 card that will slowly but surely find his way to under $20 in the next months. And then skyrocket again when Modern booms again.

Either that or he pulls an 'Eldrazi Titan' on us and only goes up from day one. Who knows. Anyway, this is the best 'Happy Holidays' Wizards could give me! Anyone else quite so pumped?

December 25, 2014 2:06 a.m.

SpaderAce says... #28

I plan to run him in control, hopefully Bolas will be printed here too and I'll get to run a Grixis list with those 2 leading XD

THE DREAM

December 25, 2014 2:08 a.m.

SpaderAce says... #29

Woah woah woah, does he exile lands? Are lands associated with a color, and don't they have converted cost of 0? Please tell me if I'm wrong and why so I know

December 25, 2014 2:43 a.m.

Pilz_753 says... #30

SpaderAce Lands are colourles so Ugin doesn't hit them.

December 25, 2014 2:46 a.m.

SpaderAce says... #31

Good and I sorta expected that

December 25, 2014 2:47 a.m.

xcn says... #32

SpaderAce lands are colorless unless something is otherwise modifying that, like a manland ala Celestial Colonnade or an effect like Painter's Servant.

December 25, 2014 2:48 a.m.

Blizzicane says... #33

NEW WALKER! I need to stuff this into the superfriends deck I made for EDH recently! >:3

December 25, 2014 2:49 a.m.

SpaderAce says... #34

I was actually thinking about Painter's Servant! Thanks for bringing it up. EDH using this and the painter for mass destruction, but then the game would literally stall because Ugin would exile himself haha

December 25, 2014 2:57 a.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #35

December 25, 2014 3:12 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #36

SpaderAce except Painter's Servant is banned in EDH. Also you'd have to get Ugin above 8 to exile himself due to the servant.

December 25, 2014 3:12 a.m.

shinobigarth says... #37

this time its a real Ugin card, and he is sorta meh.

December 25, 2014 3:13 a.m.

Seems good. 8 mana is a lot though.

December 25, 2014 3:30 a.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #39

If only Ugin, the Spirit Dragon's first was +3, I think then he would be much more worth his mana.

December 25, 2014 3:36 a.m.

-Axion- says... #40

Something about him and his ultimate seems very Griselbrandish to me...

Finally, another colourless Planeswalker, though. Now they just have to make Urza and the holy trinity will be complete!

December 25, 2014 4:53 a.m.

Archimedes75 says... #41

I'd stick a 1 of into any standard deck I played, just for the lolz. Dropping that one on someone and then popping off creatures at will, especially with The Chain Veil and Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient on my side of the field..

That could get ugly, quick.

Teehee.

December 25, 2014 5:09 a.m.

swkelly89 says... #42

sexy ultimate

December 25, 2014 6:11 a.m.

I like the card very much in terms of flavour but it's kind of sad that he is not very playable outside Commander.

December 25, 2014 6:50 a.m.

greyninja says... #44

I think I'll put him in my Narset, Enlightened Master deck and play him for freeee

December 25, 2014 7:16 a.m.

lemmingllama says... #45

Very very flavourful. I might have to throw him in an EDH deck after his price plummets. I'm more excited about fetches being in Fate Reforged.

December 25, 2014 7:42 a.m.

maiden77 says... #46

Cube and EDH say thank you :-)

December 25, 2014 8:18 a.m.

Shadowfang says... #47

I cant believe I'm saying this, but i don't like him. Granted he's good but all I could think of when i first saw him was..disappoint... Id honestly wished it was a fake

December 25, 2014 8:28 a.m.

Shadowfang says... #48

Anyone else notice he doesn't have the counters to kill bolas but bolas can kill him with a plus. So much disappoint..

December 25, 2014 8:43 a.m.

erabel says... #49

Shadowfang: Look at it this way: On his own, he can't actively defeat Bolas. If he has help somehow (a way to redirect targets, a Stifle spell, what have you), he can defeat Bolas. Flavor!

December 25, 2014 8:46 a.m.

Shadowfang says... #50

I swear if there isn't a Vol Legendary creature in the set I'm going to be so Pissed

December 25, 2014 8:47 a.m.

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