All things Wolven
Standard Deck Help forum
Posted on March 26, 2016, 12:26 p.m. by clayperce
If you want to talk about Wolves and Werewolves in Standard, you're in the right place!
If you're looking for other formats, please drop by Werewolf EDH for Commander or Modern Wolves for Modern.
- You're 100% welcome to post here asking for help on anything Wolven, though you may want to set up a separate thread as well, in the Standard Deck Help forum.
- Please don't hesitate to post your deck in large format (it makes it easier for others to find the decks that are asking for help).
- Here's the syntax for a large format deck ... just copy-and-paste, replacing the "gruul-wolves-soi" part with the "slug name" from your deck's URL:
[[deck-large:gruul-wolves-soi]]
FNM (6 Jan 2016)
- 1st Place (3-0): just-another-jundyard-dog-rec-12-5 by VexxValentine ($$$$)
FNM (23 Sep 2016)
- 1st Place (3-0): Sköll Pack by GrimShock ($$$)
Game Day (13-14 Aug 2013)
- 2nd Place: An earlier version of RG Wolves (Post Kaladesh) by alexwilson (Heirloom, $$)
FNM (29 Jul 2016)
- 1st Place: Werewolf's hurt (budget) by Nicholade (Mono-Red, $)
FNM (15 Jul 2016)
- 1st Place: Werewolf's hurt (budget) by Nicholade (Mono-Red, $)
FNM (8 July 2016)
- 1st Place (3-0): deck:naya-wolves-and-humans-bring-on-the-pain by snarlmkiv (Naya, $$)
Tues Standard (5 July 2016)
- 1st Place (3-0): Fur-Force One by Teurastettava_Sika (Zada, $$)
FNM (1 July 2016)
- 1st Place (3-0): deck:naya-wolves-and-humans-bring-on-the-pain by snarlmkiv (Naya, $$)
- 1st Place (3-0): Arlinn's Aggro Wolves by Jonnyradd ($$)
FNM (25 May 2016)
- 1st Place (3-0): Naya Tokens 1st place FNM by kamerask (Naya, $$$$$$$$)
FNM (6 May 2016)
- 2nd Place (3-1): Baby I'm Preying On You Tonight [EMN] by BlueEyes (CoCo, $$$$)
GAME DAY (30 Apr - 1 May 2016)
- 1st Place: Bark at The Moon (Orig Preying Baby deck) by BlueEyes (Heirloom, $$$)
- Top 8: deck:gruul-werewolves-with-removal by snarlmkiv (Heirloom, $$)
- Top 8: Westvale Wolven High GAME DAY TOP EIGHT by Rabid_Wombat (Zada, $)
- Top 8: Wolf Pack Attack by deltacobra (Zada, Temur, $$$)
FNM (29 Apr 2016)
- 2nd Place (3-1): Wolves are back, Baby! by LoudWings (Skin Invasion, $$)
FNM (22 Apr 2016)
- 1st Place (4-0): Bark at The Moon (Orig Preying Baby deck) by BlueEyes (Heirloom, $$$)
- 1st Place (4-0): Dirty Dogs! by Nykona (Zada, $$)
- 2nd Place (3-1): Gruul Wolf Tribal by BoB_6082 (CoCo, $$$$)
Some great posts that will otherwise be totally buried as the thread grows ...
- An article about CoCo from Post #106: "I'd want 22 hittable creatures at the very least before putting Collected Company in my main deck. This gives a 5% chance of missing completely, a 21% probability of hitting one creature, and a 74% probability of hitting two creatures." Thanks, DaftVader!
- The budget Werewolf Quickbuild from the Top Deck podcast, at Post #198. Thanks, Spootyone and EAK1791!
- An explanation of Moonlight Hunt vs. Archangel Avacyn Flip, at Post #270. Thanks, AndyReveler!
- An article about shoring up weaknesses vs. playing to strengths in sideboarding, from Post #309.
- Wedge's video, R/G Werewolves "$20 Budget" Tribal Standard Deck Tech, from Post #396. Thanks, Axinoim!
- Posts about the Werewolf decks that tore it up at the SOI Standard Poor-Man Challenge (no Rares or Mythics allowed): Post #528, Post #644, and Post #650. Congrats to Kizmetto and magnetcrocodile (Round 2), Volvary (Round 3), and DruneGrey (Round 4)!
- A manabase article which describes the "right" mix of Shadowlands (like Game Trail), Battlelands (like Cinder Glade), and other sources, from Post #610. Thanks, Ryjo!
- A look at the numbers of Wolfs, Pump spells, and Lands in the SOI ZadaFur decks in the Hall of Fame, from Post #728.
- A look at Lambholt Pacifist 's performance in the World Championship and various Grand Prix, from Post #864. [Spoiler alert: She won!]
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From the very beginning of spoilers for SOI i wanted to build werewolf tribal deck. I was working on it for very long time. I must admit that this deck owes its final form to BlueEyes. I really liked what he did and now i want to share my creation.
Ladies and Gantlewols, i present to you:
She Wolf (Nissa and Arlinn tracking for wolves)
Standard
13 VIEWS
Every constructive criticism, thoughts, help and advices are much appreciated.
May 19, 2016 7:56 a.m.
IrateWarrior says... #3
Well had my first Run in with my buddies new RW Goggles. Really good thing I already owned Naturalize and Natural State dam they can get out of control fast for the wolves to keep up.
May 19, 2016 8:07 a.m.
All,
Thanks to everyone who voted to see a Zada-Silverfur brew on SaffronOlive's Against the Odds series!
He ended up building a Temur deck with a heavy Investigate theme ... not just Confront the Unknown on ZadaFur, but with an additional combo in Clues + Ghirapur AEther Grid + Second Harvest .
As you might expect, it was a super-fragile but super-fun deck!
May 19, 2016 11:17 a.m. Edited.
clayperce I'm very confused at his selection of cards. Very, very surprised. No Might of the Masses, Slip Through Space, Expedite nothing. He missed a ton of cards and in my opinion the point of abusing Zada's ability lol.
May 19, 2016 12:33 p.m. Edited.
Rasanck,
Yeah, it's not my style either ... I (really) enjoy a combo build, but am not a big fan of the super-insane-off-the-charts-combo build, which is what I think he was going for.
Nevertheless, I think he was hugely successful at his main goal: He very obviously had a blast playing the deck! :-D
May 19, 2016 12:48 p.m. Edited.
clayperce I just talked to him on twitter (@SaffronOlive), and He wanted to do clue themed Zada/Silverfur. I'm doing my job bugging him about my deck by emailing him and mentioning my deck on his feed. Woohoo xd
May 19, 2016 12:54 p.m.
Rasanck,
TOO COOL!!!
Tell him everyone on the thread says "Hi!" :-)
May 19, 2016 1:04 p.m.
Working on werewolves again! I really liked having the human interaction and am delving deeper into the idea. Right now it is Naya, and not werewolf.. specific? Like, im not running Howlpack Resurgence or Moonlight Hunt etc. Using them as the raw power they have on their sunny side. Its main power comes from Always Watching . Im writing up the primer thing for it at the moment as well as trying to pick a more interesting name.
naya zoo
Standard
28 VIEWS
I would like to pilot it tonight so any feedback or testing would be greatly appreciated guys!
And i watched the MTGGoldfish deck and it was so much fun to watch explode! definitely interesting making it Temur.
I was thinking you might be able to throw in some Traverse the Ulvenwald and Vessel of Nascency to tutor up Zada or Partisan, whoever you were missing. Thought it could be neat. Touch of Moonglove is a fun spell to target Zada with ;)
May 20, 2016 12:05 a.m. Edited.
AndyReveler says... #10
I'm not out of the werewolf game just yet folks, this is my updated deck from testing around. I'm still 50/50 about Silverfur Partisan over Hermit of the Natterknolls Flip since it basically comes down to what's being played more control or creature decks since silverfur replaces itself but hermit can block all day, but I digress, here's my updated deck with both Collected Company and Pack Guardian to ensure a better late game plan (sideboard still needs work).
Werewolf Heirloom
Standard
SCORE: 23 | 26 COMMENTS | 5054 VIEWS | IN 19 FOLDERS
May 20, 2016 1:01 a.m.
Hey clayperce, I found this article a while back while researching Cinder Glade and Game Trail for potential of entering the battlefield untapped. I think it may be worth putting in the hall of fame posts section. The article is here: http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/magic-math-shadowlands-and-battlelands/
It would be a clickable link, but the link syntax doesn't seem to work for me.
May 20, 2016 9:36 a.m.
PistonGolem says... #12
Yea Ryjo, if you look at the rules on Gatherer, you can reveal any land for Game Trail as long as it has the subtype mountain or forest. So if I play Game Trail, i could reveal a Canopy Vista to make it enter untapped.
May 20, 2016 10:35 a.m.
Hey Guys, Now that Black control is here to counter Bant and be mean to it, let's talk about anti-black tech. Right now i've got Display of Dominance on my sideboard as primarily meta-counter to black/blue, but also as a wee bit of removal against black/blue. I also have Shape the Sands on my sideboard as anti-black tech. It can certainly survive a Languish, and with Zada he'd end up murdering all of his own creatures while leaving mine alive. Lmao. As a side note it can also survive a Lightning Axe like no other too.
May 20, 2016 3:05 p.m.
Just want to share my FNM results with you guys. I dont really play a Werewolf deck, but I run Silverfur Partisan and Dromoka's Command as a great and fun combo in a Naya Tokens deck, which I posted here before already.
I updated the deck and wrote my FNM results and match info, if you want you can read that, try my decklist out and leave some comments, suggestions, ideas.
Unfortunately, didnt do extremely well on the FNM, but with the amount and quality of players we have here I guess I didnt do that bad either.
More about it here:
Naya Tokens FNM RESULTS
Standard
SCORE: 4 | 7 COMMENTS | 694 VIEWS | IN 4 FOLDERS
May 20, 2016 4:01 p.m.
hehehe a reddit user broke modo with zadafur and it looks halarious
https://imgur.com/a/yowq1
May 21, 2016 12:27 a.m.
alvinthegreat says... #16
Did pretty well tonight at FNM, ended up going 4-1 for the night and taking third. The packs I won netted me a Gitrog and my fourth Silverfur (which I may or may not put in my wolves deck, though I might start brewing a Zadafur deck too).
Started off slow in two 2-1 matches in a row against B/W tempo decks. Got wrecked 0-2 against white humans where I got mana-screwed twice in a row, then I barreled through two 2-0 matches against mono-blue control.
Overall, I feel good about running full wolves/werewolves tribal in my store's meta, just need to sideboard and mulligan more effectively.
May 21, 2016 3:12 a.m.
Hey, so i couldnt make it to standard fnm, but did get to draft, it Was fun. Afterwards i played vs 2 og the players from the standard turney, BOTH B/G aristocrat,i Got totally demolished by both of Them, only won 1 game out of 5. But only because he was Mana screwed. So my question is have u Tried vs the aristocrat deck? and what do u do to win?
May 21, 2016 12:52 p.m.
Well the aristocrat matchup is pretty bad, basically they are favored against most of the popular stuff (like GW Tokens etc.) and a werewolf deck is not an exception. I played the GB Aristocrats before changing to 4c Rites deck and except for control the aristocrats can grind most of the games and just win by flipping Ormendahl or sacrificing enough creatures to Husk and Cutthroat.
You need to be very agressive to beat them and force them to chump block a lot. Basically you cant give them a breathing space. A good way to beat them is a lot of disruption (in this color combination I guess a lot of burn). But as I said, it is hard.
May 21, 2016 1:01 p.m.
Yeah kamerask, i felt like some early removal maybe Fiery Impulse would have done alot but i did find out that if i Got to build a board, that mine was alot bigger power/toughness wise, so if i had drawn my Nissa, Voice of Zendikar early that i could have blocked his husk without loosing so much. And eventually overrun him, also he told me theres a card that removes a land and all types of it vs westvale is that correct? And if so whats it called?
May 21, 2016 1:25 p.m.
Yeah, beating his Husk and forcing him to block a lot can be game winning, so I would get really aggressive against deck like that, however it may not be enough sometimes.
Crumble to Dust is the card. It is quite expensive, but gets rid of Westvale Abbey Flip which is nice, but dont forget that for GB Aristocrats, Abbey is just plan B (as LSV said himself plan A is just comboing out with enough Cutthroats and a Husk).
Wish you good luck when facing them next time :).
May 21, 2016 1:30 p.m.
Thank you i apreciate the advice, Yeah thats no good Clip Wings is just as good i Think. I Will have to do some more brewing :)
May 21, 2016 2:02 p.m.
Hello everyone!What do you think of Arlinn Kord? I have trouble knowing if I should directly +0 her to get a token and transform her or if it is better to use her +1 in some scenario. I feel that her werewolf form is better in most cases, so I never really use the +2/+2 vigilance and haste power. Any thoughts on this?
Did someone manage to get her ultimate off at least once? In all my games she gets targeted heavily and I never could do it, must feel pretty nice if you have a nice board :D!
May 22, 2016 12:46 p.m.
I play Arlinn in a Naya Tokens deck that i tweaked here already. Basically, for my strategy it is always preferable to 0 her and then play with her flipped side, which gives you the option of some nice burn removal or a mini-Overrun that is very relevant in my deck. Her +1 is not used that much I guess, but is always nice if you have something like Lambholt Pacifist Flip and you want to enable his attack. You give him +2/+2, vigilance and haste and smash for 5, which is nice.
So in conclusion I am a bigger fan of her werewolf side which gives me better options and I presume it is the preferable side even in a full werewolves deck. :)
May 22, 2016 1:28 p.m.
Oh man i always use her +2! Smacky smacky.
Usually she's not around until my next turn so may as well use it to smash in some damage, granting haste is usually a game ender in most cases.
May 22, 2016 8:54 p.m.
Hey everyone, i made some alterations to my deck list and would apreciate some feedback
Howling for a victory
Standard
SCORE: 2 | 4 COMMENTS | 246 VIEWS
May 23, 2016 12:32 p.m.
foxysky on the Arlinn question, for me it depends on the situation, but mostly if i play her on curve i +0 for the extra board presence and the intimidation of her flipped side removal and pump the next turn. I have yet to have her make an emblem.
On a side note is it just me or is tappedout really slow and unresponsive most of the time?
May 23, 2016 12:45 p.m.
Its not only you, tappedout is kinda weird these days. :/
May 23, 2016 2:09 p.m.
jeremy4050 says... #29
Werewolf aggro deck. Idea is to build a board of big creatures, get trample and run over the opponent. I like the lists that run CoCo, but unfortunately don't have/can't afford it. However, I feel like CoCo can make the deck into a bit more of a combo deck, waiting to coco end of turn with a flipped Geier Reach Bandit. This build has atarka's command for bigger creatures and more direct damage. Preventing life gain can be very relevant as well. Any suggestions are welcome. I'm currently debating on whether or not to up the creature count, but don't know what I would cut. Thanks for looking!:
MoonDog
Standard
5 VIEWS
May 24, 2016 9:13 a.m.
AvenDreams_ says... #30
Hello guys , i've been testing Hermit of the Natterknolls in my main deck as a replacement to Silverfur partisan , and from a general point of view , it seems more rewarding as a 3 drop. My thoughts : partisan has 2/2 and it will be the first target for a removal spell so it will produce one 2/2 token at least , but , he wont be able to block unbuffed , on the other hand , hermit has 3 toughness , gives the deck a Card draw mechanic , and punishes the enemies that will cast a random spell on your turn to avoid fliping , if you flip him , he is a /5 toughness wall at least , and if they try to cast a spell , now , considering its lategame , you will draw 3 cards in one round , which can turn the game in this point.
May 25, 2016 12:44 p.m.
Ryjo,
Yeah that's a great article; thanks tons!
For future reference, the syntax on a link like this is generically ...
[text you want to display](URL for your link)
[Magic Math - Shadowlands and Battlelands](http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/magic-math-shadowlands-and-battlelands/)
May 26, 2016 12:23 a.m.
Rasanck, kamerask, and AvenDreams_,
I'm finally catching up on comments; sorry I didn't mention this earlier:
I know it's obvious, but not everyone on this thread is a guy. And while "guy" is a gender-neutral term in many areas, it's not everywhere. I'm not trying to be overly-pushy here. Just a reminder that inclusive language is always better.
Thanks much!
May 26, 2016 12:46 a.m.
AvenDreams_ says... #33
clayperce Forgive me , its just i never met a girl that plays magic in my whole life _
May 26, 2016 9:50 a.m.
Arlinn Kord
Flip, Lambholt Pacifist
Flip and Silverfur Partisan with a bunch of 
guys just won me an FNM yay :)!!
Feel free to read about it here :
Naya Tokens 1st place FNM
Standard
SCORE: 5 | 7 COMMENTS | 989 VIEWS | IN 5 FOLDERS
Leave suggestions and ideas (and upvotes :D :) ). Will be happy :).
Also clayperce I am sorry, totally forgot about it.
And also Kizmetto: Girl playing magic, that is awesome :) (and kinda hot :D)
May 26, 2016 4:10 p.m.
I just re-read Under the Silver Moon, our first intro to Arlinn Kord
Flip. Wow, what a great story!
And it certainly hints that Werewolves will have a starring role in Eldritch Moon ...
"What is coming?" Hal asked, serious.
"I don't know."
Alena snorted, but Hal was not distracted. There was something about this woman [Arlinn!] that made Hal heed her words.
"I don't know exactly," the woman said. "But," she indicated the altar and Mrs. Palter, "I have seen enough, and so have you, to know that whatever is out there is worse than werewolves. This world will need us soon. It will welcome the sound of our howl, the muscle of our pack. We may be the only force that can stand against whatever it is that is threatening it."
May 26, 2016 9:39 p.m.
FIREphaenix says... #37
Hey, can people check out my Temur Zadafur Deck (splashing blue) I want some opinions on it. I really want to perfect it, as I'm taking it to my next Game Day.
P.S. can someone please tell me how to make those deck links that show the colour wheel, likes, comments and views etc.?
May 26, 2016 9:58 p.m.
FIREphaenix,
It's like this:
[[deck-large:temur-zadafur-wip]]
Temur Zadafur (WIP)
Standard*
SCORE: 3 | 5 COMMENTS | 167 VIEWS
May 26, 2016 10:03 p.m.
FIREphaenix says... #39
clayperce Thanks mate :)Do you know if you can edit you comments?
May 26, 2016 10:07 p.m.
FIREphaenix,
Upgraded users can edit comments for a few minutes until they get locked down and added to the comment stream ... no changes after that :-(
May 26, 2016 10:26 p.m.
yeah its such a bummer... double posting sucks ha.
taking my "team haste go" to fnm tonight, good luck everyone!
also heres hoping for more support for werewolves in EDM!
May 26, 2016 10:32 p.m.
All,
In case you hadn't noticed I added a couple things to the OP:
According to this schedule over at MTG Salvation, key dates are ...
- Official Spoilers start: 27 Jun (2 weeks of articles)
- Full Spoiler Released: 8 Jul
- Pre-Release: 16-17 Jul
- Release: 22 Jul
and
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May 26, 2016 11:58 p.m.
AndyReveler says... #43
Do you think its too much to hope for werewolf knights clayperce?
May 27, 2016 2:27 p.m.
Fevered \[T]/ Wolves Hey guys, looking for some ideas for my deck. It runs smooth, but I don't think the win condition is very prominent. Thought about Zada, etc. Looking for any and all suggestions. Thanks in advance!
May 27, 2016 4:34 p.m.
Hi All!
Anyone tear it up at FNM this week?
Also, a huge CONGRATULATIONS to Volvary, who advanced to round three of zandl's Poor-Man's Challenge (Commons and Uncommons only) with this deck:
Poor-man (Were)wolf
Standard
SCORE: 1 | 2 COMMENTS | 228 VIEWS | IN 2 FOLDERS
May 29, 2016 11:17 a.m.
Thanks man. I can't wait to see how my Wolven deck runs agains some From the Tides deck. Haven't played control on the tournament yet.
As for FMN, I am running a Zada Partisan deck these days and boy does it destroys when it starts.
May 29, 2016 1:42 p.m.
IrateWarrior says... #47
Finding some really good success with my recent update to the wolves,
May 30, 2016 8:24 a.m.
Alright branching out into modern. Definitely feel at home playing the old Innistrad werewolves, i forgot how amazing Immerwolf is. So, i'd like to pitch it up a notch, so any modern savvy people - could you take a look please? Initial testing won against a netdeck death and taxes, which feels pretty good.
Avabruck Moon
Modern
1 VIEW
I'll do a write up in the morning, its quite late here.
June 3, 2016 10:25 a.m.
With Kizmetto talking about Modern, I would be interested in discussing werewolves in modern. I will be making a "Primer" if you so will (more of a relevant card list) to our little tribe and would be interested to see your thoughts on the card pool.
June 3, 2016 5:23 p.m.
Sorry about the double post. But the list will be taking place at All modern things werewolves. The list is incomplete for the moment but I will update it later. You can start to comment some of what you think works great with our tribe and I will add it later.
IrateWarrior says... #1
Well boys and Girls Orders are in and my Wolves got their upgrade.Time to take them to battle
Who let the dogs out, they are scaring the kids
May 18, 2016 2 p.m.