Best way to say "LOL, NO" (Counterburn help)

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Posted on June 22, 2015, 10:29 a.m. by ducttapedeckbox

I'm going to start attending FNM regularly with my UR Counterburn list and have a few decisions to make, so I'm turning to the community! These points are based on the one FNM I attended this past Friday.

  1. Should I run fetches? They would replace Evolving Wilds, and help fuel delve on the four Digs and single Cruise I run. Is the life loss negligible with the set of Radiant Fountains and Swiftwater Cliffs? I already own the sets of Deltas and Strands, so obtaining them isn't an issue.
  2. My meta is red/black creature heavy. Does this warrant mainboarding Nullify over Dissolve? I found myself siding in Nullifys and a Negate or two nearly every game.
  3. How can I deal with Thunderbreak Regent? I can counter him, but have no way of removing him once he hits. I've been thinking about AEtherspouts, but is this a good decision?

Any thoughts are welcome and appreciated!

brokendwarf says... #2

I'm not one to play at FNM, or any regular tournament for that matter, but I'll see if I can help a bit.

  1. Do you need your basics to enter untapped? As a control deck I assume they would but at the same time you don't have any super early plays. And would you only run blue fetches?
  2. I say build for the meta. If you're siding in cards nearly every game against these decks, try them mainboard.
  3. I assume you want to remove it without targeting it, so no to stuff like Stoke the Flames or any of the targeting bounce effects. AEtherspouts could help against token decks too if you don't draw any of your Anger of the Gods.
June 22, 2015 10:53 a.m.

Boza says... #3

For number 3, For any big creature plays like regent or atarka, there is always Polymorphist's Jest + Circle of Flame. Very fun to sideboard into vs creature heavy strategies and one half even works well vs red aggro.

June 22, 2015 10:58 a.m.

@ brokendwarf - Thanks for the help!

  1. Not really. It will help a lot if I make the change in counter magic, since they all cost 2 rather than 3. I was also considering running both a set of blue fetches and the Wilds.
  2. Should I remove the Dissolves for them? Or something else?
  3. I may move Anger of the Gods to the side. It rarely helped, since most of the problems I encountered were Regents.

Thanks as well, Boza! I've already been thinking about Circle of Flame in the side to combat RDW, so I could try Polymorphist's Jest as well. Unless it's a RDW deck, the pieces aren't overly useful on their own though.

June 22, 2015 11:07 a.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #5

The issue with the Polymorphist's Jest and Circle of Flame combo is that you have to devote at least 5 sideboard slots to the two cards to even think about consistently getting them together. That's a full third of your sideboard.

June 22, 2015 11:32 a.m.

brokendwarf says... #6

Try them in place of the Dissolves, Dissipate can still exile things.

You could run just the Polymorphist's Jest and still Magma Jet the problem creatures.

June 22, 2015 11:37 a.m.

Agreed, GoldGhost012. I've already been contemplating running Circle of Flame to combat RDW though, but I don't like needing both cards for either to work well in any other matchup.

June 22, 2015 11:38 a.m.

I'm getting two-for-one'd if I Jest then burn.

June 22, 2015 11:39 a.m.

tempest says... #9

Jest and anger of the gods

June 22, 2015 3:14 p.m.

brokendwarf says... #10

That's still having to use 2 cards to take out 1 creature.

June 22, 2015 3:39 p.m.

At least that's all the creatures, and they get exiled. : Exile all creatures you don't control. Still not that great, considering it's sorcery speed. May splash black for that new board wipe but eh, I don't like that much.

June 22, 2015 4:35 p.m.

The card you are looking for to handle midrange creatures in a UR deck is Perilous Vault.

June 22, 2015 4:43 p.m.

Scorprix says... #13

I'd Just side 2-3 anger, period.

For Thunderbreak, try Stoke the Flames

June 22, 2015 4:46 p.m.

Rasta_Viking29. <3.

Side two?

June 22, 2015 5:17 p.m.

ducttapedeckbox I would main deck 3, it's a card you are going to want to see most games.

June 22, 2015 5:44 p.m.

Would you mind taking a look at the list and suggesting something to remove?

June 22, 2015 6:01 p.m.

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