What is the best ratio of mana dorks, lands and land ramp spells for standard ramp competitive deck?
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Posted on Jan. 28, 2016, 8:55 a.m. by shepherdofire
I am in the process of figuring out a green blue land ramp deck that runs Shrine of the Forsaken Gods, Explosive Vegetation, and Nissa's Pilgrimage. I also run Conduit of Ruin and Kiora, Master of the Depths. The goal is to ramp out really early to get a turn 3 or 4 Reality Smasher and a turn 6 or 7 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger or Kozilek, the Great Distortion. Is there enough ramp in the standard format to make this happen? If you want to see the deck message me because posting it in the forums is frowned upon.
I've been calculating the ramp speed of Standard a lot lately. So here goes:
You don't break your turn curve until turn 3.
Turn 3: 4 Mana (Rattleclaw Mystic last turn)
Turn 4: 7 mana (Explosive Vegetation last turn)
Turn 5: You can hit 10 or more depending on what you do with your turn 4. For example you could Nissa's Pilgrimage and From Beyond. If you don't have an Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger in hand already you can get one and cast it on turn 6.
Zendikar Resurgent is also a really good card to look at. I made a mockup ramp deck that uses it and Villainous Wealth cause I felt like being a scumbag. Turn 5 you can literally manipulate your mana base to cast three of them in that turn alone, but that's devoting all resources and focus to ramp. Worth toying with at least.
There was a Simic Ramp list that made it to the "Decks to Beat" list on MTGTOP8. It's worth checking out. Didn't use Kiora, Master of the Depths either.
January 28, 2016 12:03 p.m.
Dunno how to calculate ramp speed, but I'd still focus on land ramp over cards like Reality Smasher so you can drop those eldrazi by T6.
January 28, 2016 9:48 p.m.
Whisperer of the Wilds is always good Rattleclaw Mystic is good morph and those are the only (4 of) mana dorks you need. ((Honestly just whisperer works fine))
Then explosive vegetation and nissa's pilrimage are the only two land search you need. Then Conduit of Ruin to tutor for your titans ans turn 5 Void Winnower is the meanest thing you could do. Trust me, I have "lived" that pain
January 28, 2016 10:45 p.m.
Sorry, and mono green is the best way to go, splashing for wastes for the other eldrazi like kozilek and endbringer:)
January 28, 2016 10:48 p.m.
shepherdofire says... #8
Okay. Made a similar deck that is mono green and kicks butt. Itll be called Squid and Broccoli
AgentGreen says... #2
There is alot of ramp in standard; you really want to also apply Cultivator Drone and some of the green Eldrazi that makes scions.
HOWEVER
If you're taking on black be very weary of a sideboard containing Infinite Obliteration. That will sink you before you get a chance to drop it.
January 28, 2016 10:55 a.m.