Aristocrats in Standard?
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Posted on May 2, 2014, 11:17 a.m. by nashbridges52
Do you think there's any chance of an Aristocrats deck in Standard? I loved playing last seasons version and I think with Athreos and Xathrid necormancer floating around that there might be something fun here...
Any other ideas out there?
I think a bw aggro deck that utilizes Athreos, God of Passage
, Cartel Aristocrat
and Xathrid Necromancer
can be a thing. If you keep most of the deck you can even run a copy or two of Immortal Servitude
, to get things back if people actually pay the life to put things in your graveyard.
May 2, 2014 12:09 p.m.
Not really, the main card that made The Aristocrats good was Blood Artist
May 2, 2014 12:38 p.m.
With athreos, yes. It's all about Cartel Aristocrat giving protection and effectively granting a free 2 damage per turn, that you can either repeat (because the sacrificed creature returns to hand) or do an extra 3 with (if the opponent takes 3 damage to kill the sacrificed creature outright). Seems very strong.
May 2, 2014 1:06 p.m.
With Brimaz for token gen, there's also sac fuel.
Ntm Godsend and Soldier of the Pantheon strengthening the offense.
May 2, 2014 1:08 p.m.
May 2, 2014 1:15 p.m.
Could go Junk....
Sac something to Cartel Aristocrat
...
Athreos, God of Passage
, they pay 3 life...
Swing in for 2 (or more)...
Pharika, God of Affliction
Exiles it, and creates a 1/1 Deathtouch...
...following turn, sac the token, swing again!
May 2, 2014 1:20 p.m.
nashbridges52 says... #9
Thanks for all the comments everyone.
Junk is really interesting because you could run 4 Voice of Resurgence and get the elemental token on its death while also shutting down controls chance to break up your combos...
Varolz, the Scar-Striped also could be a good additional sac engine and give some added value to any creatures that hit the yard... I'm thinking we're on to something here...
May 2, 2014 3:25 p.m.
aFriendlyAlly says... #10
Varolz, the Scar-Striped seems like a win more card. Your 3 CMC slot already is going to be running Xathrid Necromancer and Athreos, God of Passage . Plus he wouldn't trigger Xathrid. I think you gain more from Xathrid as a whole, and white weenies splashing black is really good. Theres no need to add a 3rd color which may hurt the mana base if you plan to run something like Precinct Captain .
May 2, 2014 4:21 p.m.
greensaleen says... #11
My version "Cause this is thriller, thriller night", it sides into a B/W control deck if need be
May 2, 2014 4:24 p.m.
greensaleen says... #12
Edit my version 'Cause this is thriller, Killer night!
May 2, 2014 5:04 p.m.
Dalektable says... #13
I suppose Orzhov Humans can essentially work like that, with what everyone is saying. I use all three key pieces everyone is mentioning, It's mainly just a hyper aggressive deck that has good survive ability due to athreos and xathrid.
May 2, 2014 5:43 p.m.
nashbridges52 says... #14
Alright, so here's what I've come up with so far. The only problem, I don't think its really what you'd call an "Aristocrat" build. Athreos, God of Combos
May 2, 2014 9:14 p.m.
nashbridges52 says... #15
I think the real problem is the complete lack of Falkenrath Aristocrat or anything even close to that powerful. Cartel Aristocrat is good, but I think you need another creature that you can run 4 of. Something with a free sac ability and some good value. Maw of the Obzedat is the only thing that comes to mind and its just not that good.
May 2, 2014 9:23 p.m.
No Tragic Slip really hurts the archetype. I think it's a powerful deck (B/W/x humans), but without a 1-drop "kill-everything-in-the-format-with-no-drawbacks" card, it's difficult to play it the same way we did last season.
May 3, 2014 4:15 a.m.
The only card i fear in a deck like this i Cartel Aristocrat if this deck becomes anything big i just feel Anger of the Gods (witch i play btw) just became alot better.
Feel i would be forced to run Pithing Needle again to stop Cartel and just AotG their board. nothing dies so no triggers of anything.
May 3, 2014 5:06 a.m.
Dont get me wrong deck can prove a mayor pain and i do see it become good. Though i do think your better of keeping it BW. sideboard for fat stuff like Obezedat, Baron and the new godhate.
May 3, 2014 5:09 a.m.
nashbridges52 says... #19
Been playing around a little bit more and this is the best thing I've got right now:
Aristocrats of Orzhov Playtest
Standard*
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gufymike says... #2
Currently I have friends that use Cartel Aristocrat and the bog brew engine from m14 to some success (it's not tier 1 at all).
May 2, 2014 11:29 a.m.