Battle Hymn Question
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Posted on Aug. 19, 2013, 11:02 p.m. by Jbeguhn
So to set up the board I have 3 Young Pyromancer 5 Elemental Tokens and 3 Mountain and 1 Sulfur Falls If I cast Battle Hymn do the tokens I get from Young Pyromancer count?
Epochalyptik says... #3
Questions like this belong in the Q&A.
This is what happens.
- You cast Battle Hymn . Each Young Pyromancer 's ability triggers.
- The Young Pyromancer s' abilities are put onto the stack above Battle Hymn .
- Each Young Pyromancer 's ability resolves, giving you a 1/1 red Elemental token.
- Battle Hymn resolves. It counts the number of creatures you control, which is, at this point, 11, and adds 11 red mana to your mana pool.
August 19, 2013 11:08 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
@Cobthecobbler: That's incorrect. Young Pyromancer 's ability triggers when you cast a spell, not when you resolve a spell.
August 19, 2013 11:08 p.m.
Cobthecobbler says... #6
Ah, my mistake. Thought it was whenever you play a spell.
August 19, 2013 11:10 p.m.
fluffybunnypants says... #7
@Cobthecobbler: technically, that's correct. You play a spell, the ability triggers. Playing a spell and the spell resolving are two entirely different things because you can play a spell and have it get countered.
August 19, 2013 11:17 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #9
I'm correct.
Playing and casting a spell are the same thing. Young Pyromancer 's ability triggers when you cast a spell, so it goes onto the stack right above the spell.
Neither playing nor casting have anything to do with resolution.
August 19, 2013 11:22 p.m.
fluffybunnypants says... #10
Epochalyptik is correct. I was merely pointing out that playing a spell simply means it goes on the stack, not that it actually resolves.
August 19, 2013 11:23 p.m.
The Doctor says... #11
For future reference, Epochalyptik is correct 99.99% of the time.
Cobthecobbler says... #2
No, since Battle Hymn needs to resolve before Pyromancers ability triggers.
August 19, 2013 11:05 p.m.