Blood Scrivener card draw

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Posted on May 17, 2013, 10:50 p.m. by capriom85

If I have 2x Blood Scrivener on the battlefield and no cards in hand, when I draw will both Scriveners trigger, causing me to draw 4 cards and lose 2 life?

Smith_and_Tonic says... #2

"Each additional Blood Scrivener you control will effectively add one card and 1 life lost. Say you control two Blood Scriveners and would draw a card while you have no cards in hand. The effect of one Blood Scrivener will replace the event draw a card with draw two cards and lose 1 life. The effect of the other Blood Scrivener will replace the drawing of the first of those two cards with draw two cards and lose 1 life. Youll draw two cards and lose 1 life, then draw another card and lose another 1 life"

Straight from the gatherer

May 17, 2013 10:56 p.m.

capriom85 says... #3

Hmm...that seems strange to stack that way but I guess 3 cards for 2 life isn't that bad. Thanks!

May 17, 2013 10:58 p.m.

Smith_and_Tonic says... #4

I believe the wording on the gatherer is overly simplified. Lets see if I can break this down correctly. When you are instructed to draw multiple cards, you will draw them one at a time. when you draw a card with two Blood Scrivener 's on the field, one will trigger first. This will then instruct you to draw 2 cards, lose one life.

Now you are drawing two cards, so you go to draw the first card. The other Blood Scrivener will trigger so you will again, draw two cards and lose one life (but remember you are replacing one draw from the other Blood Scrivener ) You would then draw 2 cards and lose 1 life from one Blood Scrivener and finish drawing the rest of the cards from the other Blood Scrivener , so draw one more and lose one more life.

Did that explanation help at all?

May 17, 2013 11:05 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #5

@Smith_and_Tonic: Remember that Blood Scrivener has a static ability that sets up a replacement effect. Nothing about that ability is triggered.

May 17, 2013 11:18 p.m.

DukeNicky says... #6

So from my understanding it is basically stating with 2 on the field and an empty hand you'll draw 3 cards and loose 2 life?

May 17, 2013 11:39 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #7

Yes. Each replacement effect applies. If you have no cards in hand and would draw a card, you instead draw (1+X) cards and lose X life, where X is the number of Blood Scrivener s under your control.

May 17, 2013 11:57 p.m.

capriom85 says... #8

Ok, so is it worth having two in play at once? To clarify we talking about Jund Midrange for the most part.

May 18, 2013 12:32 a.m.

cartwheelnurd says... #9

For midrange, it is worth it. THis gives you time to draw into the Sire Of Insanity and other bombs you need to win. Plus if you have aristocrat or olivia out you can get rid of the scriveners if they prove troublesome, or not empty your hand.

May 18, 2013 3:05 a.m.