blue screwed in born of the gods so far
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Posted on Jan. 20, 2014, 6:17 p.m. by drewmighty
Anyone else think blue is getting kind of screwed in born of the gods so far? Most of the cards do not fit into the deck. maybe the card that copies, but it is basically clone for 1 less mana. Any thoughts? White seems to be getting amazing card and white weenie will be strong. I hope more blue cards that are viable are released, otherwise blues power will drop with the release of born of the gods. Thoughts?
Epochalyptik says... #3
What about the devotion to blue Mana Leak , Thassa's Rebuff ?
Also, we haven't seen most of the spoilers yet. There may easily be something among the unrevealed cards that gives MUD an edge again.
January 20, 2014 6:26 p.m.
drewmighty says... #4
mono black is not going to lose anything, it is still stupid strong with all its kill and life gain. Also Naya will be a new top deck you see winning first alot now i will foresee
January 20, 2014 6:27 p.m.
drewmighty says... #5
@epochalyptik, I hope so, I run a mostly mono blue and will be sad if it gets screwed over by this :(
January 20, 2014 6:29 p.m.
There are 165 cards in Born of the Gods, 59 have been spoiled. That means there's still 65% of the set left. Of the cards that have been spoiled they make up the following. White (10) - Blue (7) - Black (9) - Red (9) - Green (8) - Multicolor (11) - Artifact (2) - Land (3) Meaning we've seen blue the least.
So no, I don't think the sky is falling for blue and you should calm your jets until the whole set is revealed.
January 20, 2014 6:29 p.m.
drewmighty says... #7
@slycne: No good cards have been spoiled for blue at all, while other decks have gotten a few good cards. I am just saying, so far it looks like blue may lose its edge. I know it is too early to say this yet, but with the new legendary white, white seems like it will be pretty strong, as well as naya in this new set.
January 20, 2014 6:31 p.m.
I think it's far too early to make any calls. I like my new counter based on devotion. That's nice.
January 20, 2014 6:37 p.m.
drewmighty says... #9
The devotion counter is indeed nice, and I am sure control will love their new option to syncopate
January 20, 2014 6:42 p.m.
Brimaz, King of Oreskos is certainly good, but no where near powerful enough to make a single deck dominate to the exclusion of others. You say WW is strong, but now WW not only still has to survive in a world of Supreme Verdict , Anger of the Gods and loads of spot removal, it now must contend with already another 2 cards capable of X-for-1ing it in Bile Blight and Drown in Sorrow .
Even if your primarily looking at mythics. If you look a little deeper at the cards revealed you might also notice that a mono-white, mono-red and mono-black mythic have been revealed so far. Most small sets have around 12 mythics, so there's a good chance there's a blue mythic waiting since 5 gods, Kiora, Chromanticor and 5 mono-colored mythics would make 12.
January 20, 2014 6:48 p.m.
forestlore44 says... #11
Well I don't know about blue...but as for someone who plays green, green has it a lot worse. At least mono blue devotion is a thing. It's not easy being green :(
January 20, 2014 6:59 p.m.
drewmighty says... #12
@ slycne: I do believe that Brimaz, King of Oreskos is overrated and with people running 4, their hands will get more than one and they will have a useless card in hand. blacks Drown in Sorrow will be good against alot of decks, including blue. Also I did not know about the 12 rule. If blue indeed does get a mythic, then it will hopefully be a good one. Also the Archetype of Imagination would be a good finisher as it basically makes all your creatures unblockable
January 20, 2014 7:04 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #13
Remember that a good card doesn't have to be super impressive or even rare/mythic. There are plenty of workhorse commons and uncommons that make decks function. Take, for example, Mana Leak , Lightning Bolt , Magma Jet , Delver of Secrets Flip , and Preordain . They all had (or currently have) their time in the spotlight, and they made (or make) their respective decks function as well as they did (or do).
Red and blue in particular benefit from these workhorse C/U cards. Counterspells and burn spells don't need to be rare or OP. They just need to function. And we still have no idea what other cards WOTC has in BNG. There could easily be a card of any rarity waiting to do big things for blue.
January 20, 2014 7:05 p.m.
drewmighty says... #14
@forestloree44 : ya I am sorry, green alone isn't that strong, but red green is going to be HUGE. Also Naya will be buff too with the new god and his fanatic. bloody emissary is 4 devotion towards him....
January 20, 2014 7:05 p.m.
ummm devotion counterspell for 2? thats pretty crazy, basically curves perfectly for mono blue...T4 Desecration Demon for mono black? nope...
January 20, 2014 7:12 p.m.
drewmighty says... #16
@ khanye, that is assuming you draw it, personally i prefer cards like Rapid Hybridization to deal with those guys, and would save counters for cards like gary ( Gray Merchant of Asphodel )
January 20, 2014 7:18 p.m.
Schuesseled says... #17
drewmighty no its 2, and can count towards either green or red but not both he is either gg, gr, or RR toward s the devotion of each devotion counter (god)
January 20, 2014 7:20 p.m.
drewmighty says... #18
@ Schuesseled: I believe the devotion is both. I had a long discussion with my friend who goes to tournys a lot and recently placed top 15 at the vegas one, you can look at his naya deck if you want, and he said that he believes the devotion would count towards both in said case.
January 20, 2014 7:24 p.m.
Nope definitely doesn't. The first article when the first multi colour god was spoiled was very specific that each hybrid mana only counts as 1 mana symbol, and therefore one to devotion. The question was also asked on Maro's Tumblr and got a similar answer. BTE only adds 2 devotion.
January 20, 2014 7:34 p.m.
drewmighty says... #20
@ Bestach: Thanks, I will definately rub this in my friends face :)
January 20, 2014 7:38 p.m.
SwampHippie says... #21
Does MUD really need MORE good cards? It's already co-dominating the format right now with MBD, craving even more than that just seems greedy (and this is coming from a player who prefers blue).
Now it is possible that they could (and should) print some good blue cards that fill a gap in other non-MUD decks such as a good low-cmc draw card (Jace AoT, and Divination aren't cutting it for me).
January 21, 2014 3:53 p.m.
I've been thoroughly disappointing with the spoilers so far. It's as though WotC wants all blue players to just go black.
January 22, 2014 2:39 a.m.
Quadsimotto says... #25
Fated Infatuation is an awesome card for Mono Blue. "Oh, at the end of your turn let me go ahead and put another copy of this here Master of Waves down and all his little buddies too. Yeah i screwed myself out of the scrye but lets go ahead and overload a Cyclonic Rift and call it game over buddy."
January 22, 2014 6:43 a.m.
@Quadsimotto Yes, because when you have a Master of Waves
out and the capacity to overload a Cyclonic Rift
you really need that second copy. Your board state will already be miles ahead.
January 22, 2014 9:43 a.m.
RussischerZar says... #27
The thing is, Fated Infatuation kind of works as a counterspell for creature removaal (if not used on something like a Cloudfin Raptor ), and when doing that for a Master of Waves (which is a first priority target for any kind of removal), you'll even generate additional tokens in addition to your other tokens not dying. So I think it has a place as a 1 or 2-of in MUD. A copied Master of Waves could also vastly improve your boardstate so it's enough to swing lethal with your existing tokens in the first place.
January 22, 2014 9:54 a.m.
drewmighty says... #28
the thing about Fated Infatuation is that it is a token copy. personally i dislike tokens as ratchet bomb wrecks them alot. also all black needs to do is get that -2/-2 out and ur masters die with the tokens with quite a bit of other blue cards as well :/
January 22, 2014 4:18 p.m.
Whelming Wave . It's a blue sweeper. I think Blue's doing fine. Also, if mono-blue wants to splash, Ephara, God of the Polis would generate more card advantage. Blue's solid I think
January 22, 2014 4:33 p.m.
drewmighty says... #30
blue has a better board sweeper already though, also adding white changes the deck quite a bit.
Stone_Munkee says... #2
Time for some new top decks imo. MUD and MBD had their time in the spot light.
January 20, 2014 6:24 p.m.