Can orzhov stop Blood Baron?
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Posted on April 20, 2014, 9:45 p.m. by Shane
I want to play an orzhov deck but my lgs has lots of Blood Baron of Vizkopa floating around. Is there any way a black white deck can handle him?
Oh, and Devour Flesh of course. Flare is still strictly better vs Baron.
April 20, 2014 9:48 p.m.
ryuzaki32667 says... #4
Lifebane Zombie eats'em up pretty good too, and Thoughtsieze and Nightveil Specter if it survives long enough to hit and flip one over
April 20, 2014 9:52 p.m.
TurboFagoot says... #5
Elspeth kills it
So in short, yes, there's a ton of ways to deal with that card lol
April 20, 2014 10:15 p.m.
If your local meta has so much Orzhov, it's probably not a good idea to play the archetype to begin with. Then you subject yourself to people building against the deck type and you don't really gain an advantage in the mirror.
April 20, 2014 10:56 p.m.
And then you should find out what decks are really good against Orzhov and build something using that knowledge
April 20, 2014 11:31 p.m.
InconspicuousPotato says... #11
R/W Burn is good against MBD and Orzhov is similar so you could do that.
April 20, 2014 11:42 p.m.
Arorsthrar says... #12
Renounce the Guilds , Celestial Flare , Devour Flesh , Thoughtseize , Lifebane Zombie , block with 2 Mutavault , splash red for Slaughter Games , Mizzium Mortars , splash blue for Rapid Hybridization . Generally the sacrifice effects are more inconsistent as your opponent can play around them. The best way would be to splash a color IMO.
April 20, 2014 11:55 p.m.
Hunter_mtg says... #13
Play b/r Its like mono black but you have mortars and lifebane still
April 21, 2014 1:49 a.m.
These guys are right. Orzhov can't take care of Baron directly, only through sac measures which aren't very reliable.
April 21, 2014 2:27 a.m.
ColdHeartedSith says... #15
You can Lifebane Zombie and Thoughtseize it out their hand as well as play it and Celestial Flare it away too. The dirtiest trick is when you splash red for rakdos return or slaughter games but also side skullcrack for anti lifegain and let blood baron block something that would kill it like obsedat or something and then Skullcrack the replacement effect not only prevents the lifegain but overides Protection and the damage cannot be prevented and baron dies to a creature he wouldnt take damage from.
April 21, 2014 2:36 a.m.
That were to imply that a creature COULD deal damage to him in the first place. He still has to be blocked, right? But he's got pro- white/black.
April 21, 2014 2:38 a.m.
Arorsthrar says... #18
Godsend wouldn't work since your opponent wouldn't willingly block a creature equipped with Godsend with the BBoV, and you no orzhov creature can block BBoV since he's got protection.
April 21, 2014 11:24 a.m.
Some1TookMyName says... #19
Elspeth, Sun's Champion gets rid of them and so do the board wipes: Fated Retribution and the Extinguish All Hope . There is also the potential for a Desecration Demon to get rid of one if the opponent is in a losing position. Those are all I can think of that havent been mentioned. Obviously all the other colors have standard playable answers.... No one has mentioned green's Boon Satyr if everyone is gonna get off topic.
Arvail says... #2
Celestial Flare comes to mind first.
April 20, 2014 9:47 p.m.