During tournements what do players right down?
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Posted on April 12, 2014, 11:19 p.m. by Brickamator
I could not find the right section for this sorry.
The Doctor says... #3
BM pretty much summed it up.
it's life totals and information on the match that will help with their own personal thoughts/strategy.
April 12, 2014 11:25 p.m.
Brickamator says... #4
Is there a form that they use or just a blank piece of paper?
April 13, 2014 12:37 a.m.
miracleHat says... #5
Blank piece of paper works. If you ever find yourself in the worlds champions, when writing down cards when you see them through Thoughtseize , note if cards are foil and what set they are from. That way you know if they play a different version, you can tell whether they still have a card.
April 13, 2014 12:39 a.m.
Oh hey Droxium, that's a very valid piece of advice right there. I'm gonna have to try writing stuff down
April 13, 2014 1:46 a.m.
This is why it's actually strategically better to use the same basic land art throughout your deck. If your opponent memorized which basic is in your hand, then you draw a different one and play it absentmindedly, then your opponent still knows you're sandbagging a basic land.
You can use whatever paper you want, so long as both players can visibly see where the paper is at both times. You may not have the paper in your lap or anywhere off the table.
April 13, 2014 2:51 a.m.
Oh so technically your opponent needs to be able to see what you write? That makes it less strategic then, but I guess you could use code if you wanted?
April 13, 2014 2:59 a.m.
Well, you could, but writing down information for yourself will always give you a larger advantage over your opponent seeing what you still now about his hand.
April 13, 2014 3:02 a.m.
I just mean if he knows youre taking note of art and stuff, he may change his plan to not make similar mistakes
April 13, 2014 3:07 a.m.
Right, but you can always not write things down if you can remember those things. That's a great way to play mind games with someone. Write everything down that you can, then appear as though you're getting sloppy but actually just start memorizing things.
April 13, 2014 3:09 a.m.
Lol I'm gonna try that. I usually try mind games with facial expressions. Appear worried when I have it under control, and composed when they do something big
April 13, 2014 3:12 a.m.
Schuesseled says... #13
I had like at least 3 guys spend a total of 20 minutes watching them write down bullshit, i genuinely feel they should have been disqualified.
April 13, 2014 4:21 a.m.
Note that whatever you write, has to be readable and explainable to judges.
April 13, 2014 5:09 a.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #15
Is note paper considered a public zone? ie: if the other player asks, do you have to let them see it, or does it just need to be visible (and they can only read it if they can read upsidedown, etc...)?
April 13, 2014 11:37 a.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #16
I believe that if they ask, you need to show them. What you write down is public.
Of course, that's assuming they can read your handwriting. Lol
April 13, 2014 11:43 a.m.
Servo_Token says... #17
Typically the other guy will be smart enough to understand why you have written something down, and just doesn't need to ask. If you're writing things willy nilly though, to play mind games or whatever, then you have to show it if prompted.
April 13, 2014 11:45 a.m.
Players are allowed to take written notes during a match and may refer to those notes while that match is in progress. At the beginning of a match, each players note sheet must be empty and must remain visible throughout the match. Players do not have to explain or reveal notes to other players. Judges may ask to see a players notes and/or request that the player explain his or her notes.
April 13, 2014 11:45 a.m.
miracleHat says... #20
@GoldGhost012, that is my secret. I can write in my messiest handwriting and read it (partially from memory) and i have yet to see anybody else read it. Also, writing in a different language helps. If your opponent is english, the chances are they can't read japanese. If your opponent is japanese, then the chances are they can't read in deutsch.
April 13, 2014 11:47 a.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #21
Is there an English (or local) language requirement?
April 13, 2014 11:47 a.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #22
@Droxium answered my question (moments) before I asked it. Clever! ;)
April 13, 2014 11:49 a.m.
miracleHat says... #24
@Named_Tawyny: i happen to know 4 languages. English, Deutsch, Japanese, and Sarcasm. I will warn you right now, sarcasm is not a good language to write in, people will get angry. Otherwise, have a fun time.
April 13, 2014 11:51 a.m.
Haha you got me there, i was anticipating what the last language would be, and I chuckled when I saw it. And btw, it was me who asked languages
April 13, 2014 11:52 a.m.
miracleHat says... #26
@SpaderAce (i got it right this time [i think]), Ich keine schrieben auf japanese, ich kann spreche, leiser, und schrieben auf deutsch. Meine Deutsch is klein.
April 13, 2014 11:55 a.m.
From this:
"Players do not have to explain or reveal notes to other players. Judges may ask to see a players notes and/or request that the player explain his or her notes."
- I'm assuming you don't have to write in English. Your opponent doesn't have to be able to understand your notes, just to be able to visually see them. Of course, this is my interpretation of it and, while I like to think I know the spirit and rules of the game well, I'm no head judge.
If you're really concerned about something and worried it might not be okay, then ask the head judge of the tournament beforehand. Judges are a resource and are simply there to ensure fair gameplay.
April 13, 2014 12:12 p.m.
I know 1 sentence in German (Deutsch), Droxium, and that is: ich habe gerade eine gute karotte gegessen
April 13, 2014 2:16 p.m.
Since this is in the standard forum, im going to tell you what they write down in standard. They right a multitude of things:
1) Cards in hand, lets say you Thoughtseize and see 7 cards. You would write the 6 you don't choose from the Thoughtseize so you know what to expect.
2) In game 1, if they have a sideboard Slaughter Games , you may write down some major cards you don't want to see next game like Stormbreath Dragon and AEtherling so you write it down and remember what to Slaughter Games .
3) Whether this counts or not, life total. This may be pretty obvious, but they do record the life total of you and the opponent. Those are two major things, but there are many more.
April 13, 2014 8:33 p.m.
When I write stuff down I jot all kinds of notes down. Mostly about my opponents deck and next week if theyre playing the same deck though they wont see me write anything at all.
Servo_Token says... #2
This probably belongs in General.
Typically, people are writing down life totals, as well as any information that they acquire on the opponent's deck, such as what is in their hand (when they Thoughtseize ), or how they think they might sideboard (I've gotten info on them just from talking to them during the first game + wrote it down).
I've also seen people write down sideboard plans for their own decks.
April 12, 2014 11:24 p.m.