Geist of St Traft gets a new tool
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Posted on Jan. 21, 2013, 9:05 a.m. by harrydemon117
Has anyone seen the spoiler for Holy mantle???
2WW enchantment aura that gives protection from creaures. What's worse than a hexproof 2/2 that creates a 4/4 angel token when it attacks?
An UNBLOCKABLE, UNTARGETABLE, 3 TURN CLOCK....
I don't think Wizards thought this one through. Looks like aggro/tempo is going to be ALL U/W again for awhile. Better stock up on your board sweepers boys
Ohthenoises says... #3
"We got a GoST on the loose boys! looks like he broke out of the supermax!"
"Well turn on the Glaring Spotlight then! I swear."
January 21, 2013 9:15 a.m.
I doubt that card will see much constructed play much if at all. I mean, It's extremely good in limited, but theres becoming more and more answers to creatures like Geist.
January 21, 2013 9:37 a.m.
@evil_monkey you don't remember Angelic Destiny do you
January 21, 2013 1:10 p.m.
I'm not sure that a +2/+2 and 'Prot-Creatures" compares to a +4/+4,, Flying, First Strike, and "Enchantment returns to hand if the creature dies"
January 21, 2013 1:19 p.m.
evil_monkey says... #7
I remember it. But Holy Mantle is hardly comparable and in a wildly different meta it could see play. But there is too much out there that will destroy it. And Holy Mantle doesn't return to your hand, making it nowhere near as good. I just doubt it's constructed viability is all.
January 21, 2013 1:21 p.m.
harrydemon117 says... #8
Oh I agree that Glaring Spotlight will help, but again it's a non creature spell that can be countered or removed in response to something TRYING to target a creature that originally had hexproof.
And I'm not saying that it will be played main deck, but think of games where you're up against aggro (Rakdos for example) that does NOT see enchantments game 1 and doesn't sideboard for them....Couple with an Azorius Charm that's a HUGE tempo swing
January 21, 2013 1:57 p.m.
rckclimber777 says... #9
uh.... Spirit Mantle was already in standard with Geist of Saint Traft and it was cheaper to cast. Don't see this actually being much of a benefit.
January 21, 2013 4:12 p.m.
Please tell me you were trying to troll harrydemon117.. Holy mantle will never see play with geist of saint traft and I doubt it will ever even see constructed play. It costs to much for that bant hexproof deck and not to mention it is a very, very bad version of Spirit Mantle . I suppose you could make an argument for playing it in the creature mirror but at 4 mana you should be wanting to do a whole lot more to increase your board state.
January 21, 2013 5:37 p.m.
harrydemon117 says... #11
You guys are missing the point....
Bant Auras/hexproof is a thing now, and wasn't back then. It also sits nicely on the curve for a tempo deck just as Angelic Destiny was just a little while ago.
For U/W TEMPO decks, this is an awesome play after GoST. Or even Bant Auras. Normal Bant decks will NOT see it
January 22, 2013 11:02 a.m.
Tricks of the Trade would be just as good.
Since he's hexproof, creatures already can't target him it's essentially the same ability. And Tricks of the Trade only required 1 mana of a specific colour (not that it's a big issue with all the mana fixing).
The only thing Holy Mantel gives that Tricks of the Trade wouldn't is resistance to creature generated non-targeting damage... can't think of any that are commonly in Standard right now.
I suppose that the +0/+2 difference could be useful against some things like a weak Bonfire of the Damned ... but it's not overly relevant, most non-targeting will ought-right destroy, or deal 4+ damage (Mizzium Mortars or properly cast Bonfire of the Damned )
January 22, 2013 11:52 a.m.
harrydemon117, the card will not see play int he bant auras deck.... Is Tricks of the Trade seeing play in it? No, and tricks is a card that offers basically the same effect as Rayenous pointed out. At 4 mana the card is just to highly costed for the deck because on turn 4 you are wanting to either pump your dude with the missing piece of the combo and kill them off, or throw down a sSilverblade Paladin . You are not going to want to attach a 4 mana enchantment that only stops your opponents from blocking. Why? because Rancor already does a really good job at screwing over your opponents blocks. Lastly, with Glaring Spotlight in standard I can almost guarantee that the bant hexproof deck will never be a thing again until rotation.
January 22, 2013 3:48 p.m.
Oh and when was the last time Angelic Destiny was used to success in a U/W tempo deck? Yes, it was seen in a few of the aggro decks sporting white, but with Unsummon a card, Holy Mantle will never get going.
January 22, 2013 3:50 p.m.
Fleetfiend says... #15
Um... Spirit Mantle was already a card, hon, and it was in standard at the same time as Geist of Saint Traft for a while. It didn't get much (if any) play in that combo then, and I am doubting it will see much now.
Besides, fieldwipes are already common enough. As well as enchantment/artifact removal.
January 22, 2013 4:27 p.m.
harrydemon117 says... #16
Again, you guys are missing the point. It is NOT A MAIN DECK CARD. Only a sideboard card and the +2/+2 will help it live through things like an early Bonfire of the Damned or a Rolling Temblor .
Maybe I'm thinking too much and overvaluing this card, but I don't like writing things off just 'cuz they're not an apparent Snapcaster Mage value.
This also gives the option to block in the mirror match as they won't be able to get through it very easily (obviously ignoring Rancor s for purpose of discussion).
I like the fact that it can be put onto an card:Avacyn's Pilgrim or Silverblade Paladin also instead of just the Hexproof guys (and both of these were in the finals of GP Atlantic City)
evil_monkey says... #2
If he gets bad Glaring Spotlight will start showing up to keep him in check. Not to mention the large amount of sweepers that are about to be in standard can still kill him. He won't be any worse by any means, but I don't believe a 4-mana enchantment is going to make him loads better either. I mean if you are on the play and tap out for that, Supreme Verdict will mess you up.
January 21, 2013 9:10 a.m.