I found something broken.
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Posted on Nov. 10, 2013, 4:07 p.m. by jjdiddy65
What if you take Silence and exile it with Elite Arcanist is it just me, or is this really strong? Almost as good as the Possibility Storm Curse of Exhaustion combo. Do you guys think that this would work well?
Epochalyptik says... #4
You're still relying on a fragile and expensive creature for this interaction. It doesn't do enough to have an impact on Standard.
November 10, 2013 4:19 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
And the more cards you add to try to protect Elite Arcanist , the more convoluted your deck becomes. At the end of the day, you're still gambling on a subpar creature.
November 10, 2013 4:20 p.m.
AJtheConquerer says... #6
you'd need to have something else out there as well... in a RWU deck you could run that with a Young Pyromancer and Master of Waves , consistently pumping out 2/2's, or even put in some Clone 's to copy Master of Waves and make 3/3's
November 10, 2013 4:23 p.m.
infinitemana says... #7
I was actually able to assemble this combo in m14 draft, and while it did well there, I don't think it's powerful enough for standard.
November 10, 2013 4:50 p.m.
Dalektable says... #8
Fun, but not really practical. I have a deck built around this specific combo if you'd like to look at it Silence in the Library
November 10, 2013 4:55 p.m.
I was talking with some people at my LGS and we came up with the combo of Rescue from the Underworld
exiled to Elite Arcanist
and then take all their creatures with Act of Treason
and Portent of Betrayal
and sac all their creatures. A fun interaction, but not Standard worthy. And it's much along the same lines as Silence
-Elite Arcanist
, but more fragile.
And if you were wondering, here are some ways to kill/turn off Elite Arcanist in the current Standard: Doom Blade , Hero's Downfall , Polukranos, World Eater , Lightning Strike , Spark jolt , Voyage's End , Griptide , Shipwreck Singer , Shock , Ephara's Warden , Magma Jet , Ultimate Price , etc.
November 10, 2013 5:54 p.m.
As has been previously stated, the combo just isn't quick or sturdy enough to be effective.
Have you thought about trying EDH? Being a generally more casual format, I've seen Elite Arcanist do some crazy things. Counterspell on him is incredibly frustrating haha.
November 10, 2013 11:31 p.m.
@JakeSlytherclaw7: I don't think any iteration of the Silence - Isochron Scepter interaction can be classified as "fun".
November 11, 2013 6:56 a.m.
hiddengibbons says... #12
Repetitive combos involving creatures that don't have Hexproof, Indestructibility, and can be countered are not very strong. Furthermore, by themselves, the cards independent of each other don't have much of an effect on the game. Most competitive decks will have a way around this. Heavy Aggro doesn't care if you land the Arcanist on turn 4 and "imprint" Silence on it on turn 5. By that stage in the game they have creatures that will beat you down. In fact, if you're opponent has a Voice of Resurgence , he/she will thank you for what you are doing with your cute combo. Control will Thoughtseize one of the cards out of your hand and either counter or kill your arcanist. Also, as was mentioned in a previous post, they can counter your copied silence.
November 12, 2013 3:54 p.m.
well atleast i learned something new from the post. never even thought about countering a Silence from an Elite Arcanist im such a bad player :)
2nd thing on the long lsit of optin killing the ehm...Elite Golgari Charm
AJtheConquerer says... #2
no, because they can kill him in response with an instant
November 10, 2013 4:15 p.m.