Is Burn a possibility now?
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Posted on July 22, 2016, 8:21 a.m. by Boza
Basically title - with EMN, I think that burn is a viable archetype. Incendiary Flow and Collective Defiance really push this archetype in the realm of possible, in addition to Bedlam Reveler.
Prior to EMN, we had access to Avacyn's Judgment, Exquisite Firecraft and of course the combo of Fiery Temper/Lightning Axe. Touch of the Void is also a consideration, although fringe, as is
I have brainstormed a bit about it, but I think that monored burn is not good enough. RB Burn though gains access to more madness cards and can be burn-y enough - [[alms of the vein, Heir of Falkenrath Flip, even Bloodhall Priest and Collective Brutality are all pseudo burn spells that work great with a little bit of madness.
Boza,
IDK, but maybe. Especially early in the season. Here's one take on it, from this article over at MTGgoldfish:
SaffronOlive's Mono-Red Burn
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July 22, 2016 8:41 a.m.
I actually do not think those are that great for specifically burn. ONly burn from within can target players and Blaze has never really been any good in standard. Regent is fine, but has no payoff with madness and you are playing 8 of the 3 CMC cards with madness for 1 that deal 3. Command is versatile, but the modes but just a Shock in a burn deck. It is just OK, rather than spectacular.
The one I really forgot is Thermo-Alchemist. That guy is exactly what a burn deck wants.
July 22, 2016 8:42 a.m.
I've used all of those spells successfully in burn decks.
Depends on how you play, I guess.
July 22, 2016 8:55 a.m.
Souljacker says... #6
What about Abbot of Keral Keep, he sees play in modern burn... Splash blue for Stormchaser Mage.
Consuming Sinkhole sideboard
July 22, 2016 9:01 a.m.
Jhessian Thief with Rogue's Passage works for card draw in Izzet Burn.
July 22, 2016 9:18 a.m.
UpperDeckerTaco says... #8
One card in particular that hoses burn at the moment and it's being heavily played...Dromoka's Command. On top of that, if Burn even becomes a thing, Sigarda, Heron's Grace will just be practically game over.
July 25, 2016 2:56 a.m.
I don't see Dromoka's Command as a huge problem for burn. No more than Counterspells.
You just need to have more burn spells than they have ways to stop them.
Also, you just burn Sigarda to death and that stops the Hexproof nonsense.
July 25, 2016 6:34 a.m.
Max McVeaty piloted this burn list to a top 64 finish in SCG Columbus this weekend:
Creatures (16)
4 Insolent Neonate
4 Abbot of Keral Keep
4 Thermo-Alchemist
4 Thunderbreak Regent
Spells (22)
4 Fiery Impulse
4 Draconic Roar
4 Incendiary Flow
4 Collective Defiance
2 Exquisite Firecraft
4 Fiery Temper
Lands (22)
2 Geier Reach Sanitarium
20 Mountain
Sideboard (15)1 Mountain2 Rending Volley3 Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh
2 Exquisite Firecraft
4 Weaver of Lightning
3 Bedlam Reveler
July 25, 2016 7:39 a.m.
July 25, 2016 8:35 a.m.
I built something recently you might be interested in. mono red ping
July 26, 2016 5:25 p.m.
Fevered Visons basically takes you to a guaranteed win wonder land against any control deck
August 29, 2016 5:06 a.m.
Fevered Visons basically takes you to a guaranteed win wonder land against any control deck
August 29, 2016 5:07 a.m.
Iffy,
Sure, for Game 1. But Orbs of Warding everywhere makes Games 2 and 3 far from a sure thing.
August 30, 2016 12:13 a.m.
Kolaghans command totally counters orbs of warding not only that its a burn and discard outlet which means they can afford to run it in the main board, and yeah it rotates but so does orbs which means that unless kaladesh prints some sort of player hexproof card sigarda will be the only one and burn has no problem getting rid of her
Argy says... #2
You're forgetting Roast, Tears of Valakut, Burn from Within, Devour in Flames, Thunderbreak Regent, and Kolaghan's Command.
It's viable, but the brew will need to be played around with a LOT.
July 22, 2016 8:37 a.m. Edited.