Izzet charm and the Gods
Standard forum
Posted on Sept. 23, 2013, 11:06 p.m. by The Doctor
Considering they are both Creatures and Enchantments, how would the Izzet Charm counter work?
Epochalyptik says... #3
Questions like this should be in the Q&A.
It wouldn't. Izzet Charm can't counter creature spells. The Theros Gods are creatures in all zones (although they are only creatures on the battlefield as long as the devotion condition is met.
September 23, 2013 11:12 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #4
@evanatorw911: That is incorrect. The Theros Gods' type-influencing ability only functions while those cards are on the battlefield. They don't function in other zones.
September 23, 2013 11:13 p.m.
Are you sure because my friend was telling me about how Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord 's power and toughness are whatever they would be no matter where the card currently is, and this seem like the same type of thing?
September 23, 2013 11:16 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #6
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord has what is called a "characteristic-defining ability." CDAs function in all zones.
The Gods have static abilities, but they aren't characteristic-defining abilities.
From the Theros FAQ:
The type-changing ability that can make the God not be a creature functions only on the battlefield. It's always a creature card in other zones, regardless of your devotion to its color.
September 23, 2013 11:20 p.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #8
Oh my god someone questioned the all knowing Epochalyptik O.O
The Doctor: Any time a card specifies for a type or color (Doom Blade , Negate , Essence Scatter ) it always looks at all types and colors. If one of the conditions matches then it won't work or will work (Doom Blade can't kill Rakdos Cackler cause it is part black, Negate can't counter Thassa, God of the Sea cause it is part creature, etc).
September 24, 2013 12:10 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #9
@UmbrotheUmbreon: There are still things even I can learn. Every once in a while, I am corrected myself on certain matters.
September 24, 2013 12:31 a.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #10
I know, I just thought I'd make a joke since you are usually the one answering everything and really accurately too :)
Evanator says... #2
Gods are only creature spells as long as your devotion to their color is 5 or more, whether or not they are on the battlefield. So you could counter only if their devotion is less than five or deal two damage if it is 5 or more.
September 23, 2013 11:12 p.m.