Lets talk about shaman of the forgotten ways

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Posted on Aug. 20, 2015, 3:23 a.m. by EmblemMan

So I pulled a Shaman of Forgotten Ways no I am not asking how good is he so I can "brew" with him hes already played and hes not bad. I have a couple questions though. 1. How good do people think he will be with bfz. He makes 2 mana and if we have a good amount of big daddy eldrazi that can just win games I think he would be very good coming up to help ramp them out. 2. I am probably gonna be playing temur after rotation and am considering putting him in with Woodland Bellower as a Courser of Kruphix replacement. I really just want to know if people would think it is good enough for a woodland bellower target. Anyway let me know your thoughts on this little guy I am interested in what you have to say.

VampireArmy says... #2

I think this heavily hinges on how good the removal is. If it's slow enough than I'm sure ramp decks will take it.

August 20, 2015 3:58 a.m.

Boza says... #3

Lets go with "not terrible". Also, how good he will be with BFZ is impossible, since we know nothing of BFZ.

August 20, 2015 4:03 a.m.

EpicFreddi says... #4

Crazy idea: play him in a g/w token+ramp deck so you can activate the formidable-effect. Biorythm that shit.

August 20, 2015 7:11 a.m.

alexthegreat38 says... #5

I'm personally really liking the idea of a /x "Ramp into Eldrazi" deck with Rattleclaw Mystic, Shaman of Forgotten Ways, See the Unwritten, Whisperwood Elemental, Surrak, the Hunt Caller, Oblivion Sower, and Ugin, the Spirit Dragon. We'll have to see what BFZ brings to see if it'll be viable. I think Shaman of Forgotten Ways becomes especially good if a Lightning Strike-esque card doesn't show up in BFZ, because we won't have one in Standard if it's not printed.

August 20, 2015 7:58 a.m.

Rasta_Viking29 says... #6

We have Draconic Roar as well but losing Lightning Strike from the meta helps X/3s.

I've played Shaman in a couple decks and liked him. He makes you much more explosive and one ups other ramp/creature decks. The issue with him is you need to be running 28+ creatures to get full value out of him, that makes you very linear. I've never activated his formidable in tourney play, I'm sure it comes up sometimes.

August 20, 2015 9:06 a.m.

Slowgod says... #7

I think he's good, I used a couple of him in this deck I threw together one night and did really well with 4 Color Dragon Craziness I actually had 2 of him in the deck. Whisperer of the Wilds is another great ramp card that's not rotating out and it can be used to play non-creature spells also. I'm currently working with this deck You Can't See the Unwritten! which I will replace a bunch of stuff with eldrazi and possibly a Shaman of Forgotten Ways or 2

August 20, 2015 12:39 p.m.

I'm sure BfZ will have its own Eldrazi-centric ramp, since that was an integral part of the original Eldrazi sets, so I think Shaman will get outclassed. He is, however, amazing in 3-5 color decks that run a lot of creatures. In a mono or dual color he's less critical. He's particularly useful for casting the Dragonlords as they each have only 2 colored mama costs. I think any ramp deck will use him to replace Courser of Kruphix but I don't think he'll be used in a mono-color Eldrazi deck. Colorless creatures don't need access to varying colors, which is what he's best at. Something like Frontier Siege would be more efficient in a mono-color Eldrazi deck.

August 20, 2015 4:20 p.m.

Check out Forgotten Dragons.

August 20, 2015 4:21 p.m.

If you're playing temur post rotation, I'd definitely use this guy. He blocks, produces mana, and is generally good. I've been playing Temur Eldrazi, minus the, uh, Eldrazi. Hmmm. for post rotation, and this guy is great, even though he dies to burn. We know that any and all ramp is useful when played with eldrazi.

August 22, 2015 12:25 p.m.

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