Omniscience and Enter the Infinite?

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Posted on Dec. 8, 2012, 1:39 p.m. by cartwheelnurd

For tose who don't know, enter the infinite is a new card from gatecrash. It lets you draw every card except for one in your library. It is twelve mana. I think we could do an ultra ramp into omniscience, then drop enter the infinite to get a hand full of hasty creatures. Could it work?

alexsmith21 says... #2

In standard?? Maybe, but highly unlikely. Standard is too quick to see both of those played in the same turn, or back-to-back. It'd mean tapping out and leaving yourself open. I can see it being viable in standard if someone used an infinite mana combo, but thats about it. I can see the combo being used more readily in EDH as a finisher than in standard.

December 8, 2012 1:50 p.m.

ki_mkt says... #3

actually I just went 3-1 last night with OmniDoor deck.

2-0 vs GW Aggro - Game1 Door; 0-2 vs BR Aggro - fought Game1 and eventually lost; after keeping control in Game2, drew 6 lands in row

2-0 vs my friend using my EE brew I made for him

2-0 vs BG Zombies - Game1 Door.

Infinite could go right into the deck and work fine, with some adjustments of course for being able to win that turn or the next, which the Door does already. I also have Worldfire/Thragtusk SB for additional win-con, which could come into Main.

December 8, 2012 1:59 p.m.

cartwheelnurd says... #4

can yo link to the deck please?

December 8, 2012 2:07 p.m.

ki_mkt says... #5

December 8, 2012 2:18 p.m.

ki_mkt says... #6

Omnidoor just won the Round 1 feature match for SCG Los Vegas Link Text

December 8, 2012 2:21 p.m.

PedigreeKing says... #7

I made a will be standard deck that that features both Omniscience and enter the infinite. The win condition is through self mill with Laboratory Maniac . It would be a really funny deck for anyone to actually make competitive.

deck:can-you-say-combo

December 8, 2012 2:22 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #8

I have been tossing the idea around! This is the plan:

4 Omniscience (for consistency), 2 Enter The Infinite (in case the first gets countered), 4 Increasing Ambition , the insta-win combo (1 Worldfire , 1 Hypersonic Dragon , 1 Pillar of Flame ), and RAMP AND FOGS.

transformational sideboard: 1 Borborygmos Enraged

December 8, 2012 3:04 p.m.

miracleHat says... #9

it would be SUPER slow, and against rakdos, oh no.

December 8, 2012 9:34 p.m.

cartwheelnurd says... #10

The idea? super ramp. Ramp to ten, pausing to drop, say a thragtusk or a centaur healer, perhaps a rhox faithmender to survive. A better combo would be laboratory maniac, inspiration, or just 4 hellriders, attacking for well over 20 damage if you throw in the hypersonic dragons. If 5 color control works, this can too.

December 8, 2012 11:10 p.m.

cartwheelnurd says... #11

Here's ll the ramp we have currently

Arbor Elf

card:Avacyn's Pilgrim

Chromatic Lantern

Farseek

Axebane Guardian (possible combo here)

keyrunes

Elvish Archdruid

Gilded Lotus

Scorned Villager  Flip

That's all that is viable, and it is all that we need. And certainly with fruul we willl have a slew of new ramp at our disposal. Best case scenarion? birds makes another appearance.

December 8, 2012 11:17 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #12

m12fox, don't make it sound like all decks have to be fast to win, cause only unintelligent people say stuff like that!

cartwheelnurd, super ramp is right! I would honestly just ramp and board wipe, then fog when it becomes absolutely necessary. That should get me to ten mana pretty quickly, and if they have no counterspells (which i will be able to counter for free) or instant removal of omniscience (which i will also be able to counter for free) then borborygmos enraged will be doing that damage. (I might have to use Stuffy Doll if they use Witchbane Orb .)

Also, what do you think about ways to cheat it out? Like Counterlash ing a Rancor ?

December 9, 2012 1:44 a.m.

ki_mkt says... #13

card:Ranger's Path

December 9, 2012 3:28 a.m.

ki_mkt says... #14

OmniDoor went 6-3 at SCG Open Las Vegas last night
the guy playing it from our 'FB community' posted that he placed 57th and got little bit of cash

December 9, 2012 3:31 a.m.

miracleHat says... #15

@mstancea, who ever said i was intelligent?

December 9, 2012 10:37 a.m.

MagicalHacker says... #16

That is true, I'm sure everyone is entitled to their own opinion. :D

December 9, 2012 1:56 p.m.

cartwheelnurd says... #17

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Pretend the door is enter the infinite.

Best case scenarion, turn 4 win

T1: forest, elf

T2: Forest, chromatic lantern, elf

T3: Forest, gilded lotus, chromatic lantern

T4: Omniscience, ETI

YOU WIN!

December 9, 2012 3:36 p.m.

MagicalHacker says... #18

4 Arbor Elf & 4 card:Avacyn's Pilgrim (8 elf), 4 Chromatic Lantern & 4 Farseek (8 chromatic lantern), 4 Gilded Lotus , 4 Omniscience , 4 Increasing Ambition , 2 enter the infinite, 1 borborygmos enraged, 1 Stuffy Doll , 4 Fog , 2 card:Druid's Deliverance, 2 Counterflux , 4 Hinterland Harbor , 4 Breeding Pool , 12 Forest .

Tada!

December 9, 2012 5:37 p.m.

cartwheelnurd says... #19

The deck could do very well. I expect to see several rogue decks go 4-0 in the following meta, maybe better. Combo decks are great.

December 9, 2012 8:17 p.m.

me1234 says... #20

if u play borborygmos u can play omnisience into enter the infinite into borborygmos then discard all the land

February 19, 2013 4:51 p.m.

me1234 says... #21

if u play borborygmos u can play omnisience into enter the infinite into borborygmos then discard all the land

February 19, 2013 4:51 p.m.

Sunforger says... #23

February 21, 2013 1:44 p.m.

This combo clearly was meant for Battle of Wits decks, as I have slaughtered many with it :D

@thehatter831: That isn't necessarily true. Control exists, and control can stall the game til you can hit those drops. Of course making a deck only for this combo is bad, cause as you said, game 2 they side hate in. That's why you have backup win conditions. To say a deck that wins with this combo means someone isn't playing right is a very bad call on your part. My Azorius deck slaughtered a Chavest (R/G/B) deck at FNM last week, and this guy did EVERYTHING right. I ended up winning game 1 with card:Azor's Elocutors :D That's how control plays. Stall for late game then slam them hard.

February 21, 2013 2:03 p.m.

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