Possible Infinite Combo in Standard
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Posted on Jan. 14, 2013, 12:59 p.m. by Wolfking3000
I'm not sure this would work, but if you have Guttersnipe , Reverberate , and Increasing Vengeance , couldn't you infinitely copy each spell to trigger Guttersnipe for infinite damage?
That would not work.
Guttersnipe only triggers on the casting of the spell. If copies of a spell are created, but not 'cast', Guttersnipe does nothing.
January 14, 2013 1:08 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #4
A copy of a spell is never cast unless the copy effect specifically states it is cast. An example would be Isochron Scepter . Effects that cause you to cast are usually copying spell cards and not spells on the stack.
You would also need to cast Increasing Vengeance from a graveyard to get the loop to work, but it still wouldn't be infinite for the reason stated above.
January 14, 2013 1:11 p.m.
You can go infinite with a weird combo as follows:
Turn 1:
Turn 2: Goblin Electromancer
Turn 3: Guttersnipe
Turn 4: Goblin Electromancer , pass turn, block something and Ghostly Flicker your blockers to keep them alive. (You really are just trying to get a Ghostly Flicker in your graveyard.)
Turn 5: Archaeomancer , return Ghostly Flicker to your hand, tap an island and Ghostly Flicker out the Archaeomancer and the island you used to cast Ghostly Flicker . The island returns untapped and when Archaeomancer re-enters the battlefield return the Ghostly Flicker to your hand. Tap the island and cast Ghostly Flicker to bounce the island you used to cast Ghostly Flicker and Archaeomancer . Then repeat.
Each time you cast Ghostly Flicker it it will deal 2 dmg to your opponent.
You can also replace the 2 goblin electromancers with Arcane Melee if you want some variety. I made a counter/draw heavy deck that did this and while it worked, it only worked once at friday night magic. Its a fun casual deck though.
January 14, 2013 3:38 p.m.
Or Nivmagus Elemental with the infinite loop and a rancor also wins you the game
January 14, 2013 3:51 p.m.
I don't think that works either....
If you cast Increasing Vengeance from the grave, and then Reverberate it... then let Reverberate resolve into a copy of Increasing Vengeance , when the copy resolves, it will only create once copy of it's target, as it was not cast from the grave....
Sure the copy can then target the original Increasing Vengeance again... but again, it will only be one copy... so you can choose to do this for a while, but the number of spells on the stack will not increase, so there will never be a large number of spells for Nivmagus Elemental to exile.
Please explain if I am missing something... but it appears that only the original Increasing Vengeance is being cast from the grave, so only it can produce multiple copies.
January 14, 2013 4:12 p.m.
Fleetfiend says... #9
That particular combo doesn't work, but there is an infinite mana combo in standard.
Axebane Guardian + Galvanic Alchemist + three more defenders.
January 14, 2013 7:05 p.m.
Arbor Elf + card:Illusionist's Bracers + Galvanic Alchemist also works and requires less pieces.
Raviede says... #2
No, because the copies are not "cast" which Guttersnipe requires.
January 14, 2013 1:05 p.m.