RDW after Born of the Gods.
Standard forum
Posted on Jan. 27, 2014, 8:52 p.m. by MaliciousMac
I've always enjoyed playing RDW, but I haven't been playing it as much in standard due to the rise of control and mono-blue. The type of RDW I'm talking about is the speed build, involving small, hastey creatures to deal insane amounts of damage quickly. Not the devotion build.
How do you guys think this deck will fare after BNG is released?
New potential all-stars:
Fated Conflagration - An answer to Elspeth/Jace.
Flame-Wreathed Phoenix - A 5/5 for 4, or 3/3 with haste and recursion.
Satyr Firedancer - Not sure how I feel about this card, don't know if it can replace the current two drops in the decks.
Thunderous Might - Pretty insane. Could possibly take the place of Madcap Skills , but probably not until after RtR is out of standard.
Oracle of Bones - 3/1 for 4 isn't that great, but it has haste, and can potentially throw a free Lightning Strike at your opponents face. Or it's a 5/3 with haste. Seems decent.
Archetype of Aggression - I definitely like this card, I just don't know if it will see play until after Chandra's Phoenix is out of the format.
Satyr Nyx-Smith - I actually really like this card. Assuming by turn 3 that you've almost dumped your hand, this card seems really good as it will give you give you constant value. Since it has haste, it's Inspire will trigger right at the next turn. After that, you don't have to worry whether or not you draw into another threat.
So what do you guys think?
MaliciousMac says... #3
Omg I completely forgot to put in Searing Blood . I love that card so much.
January 27, 2014 9:02 p.m.
ColdHeartedSith says... #4
The Devotion RDW with some Nykthos is potentialy 2x as fast especialy with Chandra, Pyromaster why wouldn't you wanna play the fastest Red Deck.
January 27, 2014 9:26 p.m.
ColdHeartedSith says... #5
I run R/W Manswer's and smash MBD and MUD every week exept one since october.
January 27, 2014 9:29 p.m.
Tradeylouish says... #6
Some of these cards could fit into Devotion RDW nicely - Flame-Wreathed Phoenix has some potential.
January 27, 2014 9:31 p.m.
ColdHeartedSith says... #7
Yea but its high costed but maybe I currently run Chandra's phoenix for a flyer wich gives 2 red devotion too and only 3 but they come back to hand from magma jet and chandra herself. I thought about dropping em but they have been better than average these past weeks and Ive been using purphoros's pay 2R give all creatures you control +1/+0 till end of the turn. If I was to add that 4 drop my deck would be slower and my curve higher. I am close to mid range because I don't run 8 1 drops but I try to keep a balanced curve of 12/ 2s 8/ 3s and 8/ 4s creature wise and I run a couple 1s. I never wanna opening hand with 2 3s and 3 4s and 2 land you know what I mean.
January 27, 2014 9:44 p.m.
MaliciousMac says... #8
I like the R/W devotion build, but it's not my personal preference to play. Don't get me wrong, the deck is insane. But I've killed people faster with Boss Sligh than with R/W Devotion.
January 27, 2014 9:48 p.m.
Tradeylouish says... #9
It's true that the card may not fit into the curve of the deck too well. We'll have to wait and see.
January 27, 2014 9:55 p.m.
ColdHeartedSith says... #10
I too love searing blood and its older landfall version but I feel on the fence about whether scry 2 Magma Jet is better in my burn slot because its one or the other for me and scry helps prevent mana screws and flooding and sets up chandra's 0 and cuts to Fanatic quicker. I can't see it really being better than scry 2 because I will end up dealing way more than even 6 to player on average from mogis anyway. The deck feels more fluid with scry. Just what ive been contimplating I like searing blood. If I were running a set of lightning strike still then yea theres the switch.
January 27, 2014 9:55 p.m.
Another question might be, what will the theros iteration of RDW after rotation? I think it will lean either towards a Big Red version with Nykthos, Flame-Wreathed, and Stormbreath, but a Burn version might also work with Firedancer and all the burn we have in these two sets (Fated Conflagration , Lightning Strike , Searing Blood , Rage of Purphoros , Magma Jet , Spark Jolt ...)
January 27, 2014 10:21 p.m.
Almost impossible to tell what the post-rotation RDW will look like. We still have two whole sets (M15 and Journey into Nyx) that will be legal and we haven't seen anything of, to say nothing of the set we will rotate into. I doubt Rage of Purphoros or Spark Jolt will be in a burn version, and I don't see Fated Conflagration joining the list either, however.
January 27, 2014 10:27 p.m.
Quadsimotto says... #13
I think all the MONO decks can benefit from this set. There are plenty of tools and RDW got some good cards despite the distaste the set gave to a large amount of players. Searing Blood is awesome.the phoenix is sweet and though Oracle of Bones may get overlooked by a large part of RDW players, i see value in having the opponent put to a choice of a 5/3 slap you in the face hasty fella or not paying the tribute and taking the chance that you will drop some sickly high priced spell like Explosive Impact , Goblin Rally or Boulderfall without paying for it..
January 27, 2014 11:16 p.m.
Ultimaodin says... #14
For me Oracle of Bones is better for stuff like Izzet and cheating out Enter the Infinite .
Outside of standard I so want to cheat out Endless Swarm or Eternal Dominion .
Standard wise I reckon Fall of the Hammer will see play. it's pit fight but better. Will definitely see play in a Rakdos build with crazy unleash an power heavy critters.
I'm expecting to see a lot more minotaur tribal love.
Tradeylouish says... #2
I think Searing Blood is the most interesting new card for RDW. Most of the others aren't quite as good as what we already have, or are just a bit too much mana. Some of them will probably see a bit of play though.
January 27, 2014 8:59 p.m.