Consolidated Missing Token Thread
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Posted on Sept. 24, 2013, 2:59 a.m. by DaggerV
Was trying to find a place to make mention of missing tokens in play-tester, but I see there's a lot of threads making mention of it and a request to group it together, so I figured this thread could be just the place to do that!
Known to me
Primeval Bounty 3/3 Green Beast Token
Liliana's Reaver 2/2 black Zombie token
Molten Birth 1/1 red Elemental token
Young Pyromancer 1/1 red Elemental token
Rapid Hybridization 3/3 green Frog Lizard token
Curse of the Swine 2/2 green Boar token
Not that it's relevant to the playtester's boardstate, but Swan Song doesn't produce it's 2/2 blue bird token.
I haven't checked personally, but might look into Xenagos, The Reveler 's 2/2 green/red satyr token too.
these are just the ones I'm aware of, I'm sure there are others. Post them here so it'll be easier for the admin to know what to add.
Epochalyptik says... #4
@Resonance: Most cards use a relatively small subset of tokens (the most common are Goblins, Faeries, Beasts of various sizes, Birds, Angels, Elementals, and a few others). It doesn't hurt to have the proper tokens. A generic option should probably be included in the playtester, but so should the actual tokens.
September 24, 2013 3:07 a.m.
Blizzicane says... #5
@ Epochalyptik True
@ DaggerIV I will check to see if i can find any that is not listed.
September 24, 2013 3:10 a.m.
Blizzicane says... #6
Xenagos, The Reveler does not have his token like you said DaggerV
September 24, 2013 3:15 a.m.
Blizzicane says... #7
Abhorrent Overlord is missing 1/1 with flying black harpy tokens
Master of Waves is missing 1/0 blue elemental tokens
September 24, 2013 3:24 a.m.
Blizzicane says... #8
Advent of the Wurm is missing 5/5 green wurm with trample token
Ajani's Chosen is missing 2/2 white cat token
Akroan Horse is missing 1/1 white solider token
Alive / Well is missing 3/3 green centaur token
Akroan Crusader is missing 1/1 red solider token
Whew i think im done for now I get back to this later
September 24, 2013 3:35 a.m.
ShadowLand says... #9
I will get on this later today and begin adding tokens!
September 24, 2013 4:06 a.m.
I agree that a generic "token" option should be added for any deck with/without tokens. This would give the site programmers little extra time to add new tokens for newly released cards (like the above). I also like to use the T/O playtester to run decks against each other, and it would be nice to have a generic token if one deck runs spells like Beast Within or Swan Song and the enemy deck doesn't have any type of tokens to use.
September 24, 2013 10:01 a.m.
I think it's also worth mentioning the corner case of the Kaldra token being very... wrong. I could provide an image of it myself with the official MTGO token art and name, etc if you'd allow me.
September 24, 2013 10:56 a.m.
Eventually, I will build the feature to add generic tokens.
September 24, 2013 4:47 p.m.
Voice of Resurgence
Dragonlair Spider
A generic token would also be useful for cards like Mimic Vat or Cackling Counterpart , which create tokens based on other creature cards. Perhaps there could be a "Copy" option for creatures on the battlefield, which would create a token card with that card's image. Not sure how easily that could be accomplished but it's worth looking into imo. Otherwise, a generic token feature would work just fine
September 24, 2013 4:47 p.m.
Goody, speaking of Cackling Counterpart , there is also Progenitor Mimic
September 24, 2013 5:06 p.m.
IAmKingTony says... #17
no card in Gatecrash forward has a token associated with it last I checked
September 24, 2013 5:16 p.m.
IAmKingTony says... #18
so that means Gatecrash, Dragon's Maze, M14, and I think Theros all need their tokens
September 24, 2013 5:17 p.m.
IAmKingTony says... #19
I already posted this, so just add whatever Theros cards need it
September 24, 2013 5:18 p.m.
kyborgturkey says... #20
http://tappedout.net/mtg-card/beckon-apparition/ i think i underrated, that card can be so good.
September 24, 2013 6:28 p.m.
kyborgturkey says... #21
[beckon apparition] is underrated in my opinion
September 24, 2013 6:32 p.m.
kyborgturkey says... #22
Here is a token deck i wanna run when theros comes out later this week. PurphBoros TURBO Snipe tokens it may give you some idea about uses of token in the block
September 24, 2013 6:39 p.m.
I'm pretty sure there are no Kobold tokens for Kher Keep .
September 24, 2013 10:11 p.m.
Cobthecobbler says... #26
I'm just going to voice my opinion once more: Instead of adding a token to each individual card, we could add an "Add Token" button to the playtester, and adjust it's attributes (P/T mainly) like we can with any other card.
I personally think this is the best route, but it's also worth noting that Utvara Hellkite 's token shows up with no image.
September 24, 2013 10:12 p.m.
Nightside_Eclipse says... #27
How do you add tokens? Is it something a lowly user could do? What about lands as well? I want to use Alara lands or Innistrad ones for certain decks.
September 24, 2013 10:52 p.m.
Nightside_Eclipse says... #28
How do you add tokens? Is it something a lowly user could do? What about lands as well? I want to use Alara lands or Innistrad ones for certain decks.
September 24, 2013 10:54 p.m.
ShadowLand says... #30
Yes, I do. I am doing a review for a card site on my blog, then I am going to get right on this!
September 24, 2013 11:42 p.m.
I second the call for Voice of Resurgence and Advent of the Wurm .
Also, Elspeth, Sun's Champion is missing her 1/1s last time I checked, but I think someone already mentioned most of the new cards aren't yet updated, as one would expect at this point.
September 25, 2013 1:25 a.m.
Do we need scans? I know a lot of people throw their tokens away. I have a small selection of them, would I be able to assist by scanning them?
I think in discussion we should also be able to post some tokens like ||token:dgm:goblin||, so it will specifically show the token associated with that set Dragon's Maze in this example, or just ||token:goblin|| to show the most recent token by that name.
September 25, 2013 2:32 a.m.
Hey DaggerV,
Excellent idea with this post. I've noticed that Llanowar Mentor doesn't have an image for his created token. I know, I know... who would run Llanowar Mentor over Rhys the Redeemed right? Thought I'd make mention of it.
- Ben777
September 25, 2013 5:22 a.m.
ShadowLand says... #34
I tried tonight to add tokens, but for some reason it isn't working, I am in the works with yeaGO! to try to get the issues resolved currently, thanks for being patient so far
September 25, 2013 5:30 a.m.
Triforce-Finder says... #35
Beckon Apparition . You need to use [i]double[/i] square brackets.
I think a generic token funktion would be great, preferably with an option to create custom tokens. That would finally make Ooze Flux playable.
Shouldn't be too hard to implement. A simple dialog with name field, color checkboxes, type dropdown, subtype and cardtext fields and a picker for p/t would suffice for data input, under it the add button, a number picker connected to it for putting multiple tokens on the field and the save button that saves the tokens to your profile.
Graphics ain't that much trouble either. I don't think it would deal much impact on performance to render a custom token on the fly. It would be enough to draw a square of the right color (gradient for multicolored), render the text and paste the frame, save the bitmap to ram, done.
Another great thing would be the option to create tokens as a copy of other cards on the field. That could be applied by adding an "copy as token" button into the detail card view.
September 25, 2013 6:13 p.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #36
I haven't seen the token generator when I play my Assemble the Legion
September 26, 2013 4:19 a.m.
ShadowLand says... #37
@ DaggerV - check Primeval Bounty now, it should produce a token
September 26, 2013 5:29 p.m.
ShadowLand says... #38
Every token listed has been added.
Also, a generic token has been added to the following cards
Keep adding requests, and I will keep fulfilling wishes
September 26, 2013 6:12 p.m.
No token for Primeval Bounty , but it may not be fully updated yet. I'll check again in the morning. Same thing with Mimic Vat though I haven't tested the others.
September 26, 2013 7:39 p.m.
Primeval Bounty working swimmingly, though Mimic Vat is still no go. Thanks for all your hard work ShadowLand!
September 26, 2013 10:36 p.m.
ShadowLand says... #41
It may just take a bit like when the cards update DaggerV, let me know tomorrow if there are still problems and I will get right at it again
September 26, 2013 10:42 p.m.
Sebastian964 says... #42
Ogre Slumlord is missing 1/1 black rat creature token.
Devout Invocation is missing 4/4 white angel creature token with flying.
September 27, 2013 12:23 a.m.
Generic token is working. When I have a bit of time i'll sit down and test each cards one by one.
September 27, 2013 1:06 p.m.
Triforce-Finder says... #44
Just checked, Ooze Flux generic token works. Thanks.
Maybe it's a stupid question, but why not have the generic token option always active in any deck, independent of the cards in the deck?
September 28, 2013 10:48 a.m.
ShadowLand says... #45
That would be over 38,000 specific cards that would have to be linked to a token individually. That's quite a workload :)
September 28, 2013 10:56 a.m.
ShadowLand says... #46
Not a stupid question, some people don't understand what goes behind getting some of these things to work. It's a good idea to be sure, and I am happy to add it to any card that is requested.
September 28, 2013 10:58 a.m.
Triforce-Finder says... #47
Well, I was thinking about making it a part of the basic interface of the playtester. That's one change to the basic program, instead of those 38.000 links.
I admit that I have no idea how the playtester is currently implemented, but certain aspects of programming should always apply. I would make putting tokens on the field a basic funktion that does not need a linked card and have cards that add tokens simply provide an additional choice to the list of available tokens.
Sure, it's a bit more work than adding a token, but it's done only once and pays off over time.
September 28, 2013 11:12 a.m.
ShadowLand says... #48
I can look into it for you. One thing I want in the playtester is a way to just put a copy of a card onto the field, that would save me a lot of time too
September 28, 2013 11:15 a.m.
Not sure if it was just an error on my end, but in a recent playtest Advent of the Wurm was missing its 5/5 trampler token.
September 28, 2013 11:20 a.m.
Triforce-Finder says... #50
Thanks for considering it. Sorry if I'm being too pushy.
Btw, seeing how simple the generic token is to use, the whole "custom token" idea I made up seems awfully overloaded and complicated. Can't help getting carried away like that sometimes...
Blizzicane says... #2
Wouldn't be easier if their was a generic token? So there would be no need for any special tokens for every single card that producing tokens.
September 24, 2013 3:04 a.m.