Little bit if Keyword issues.
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Posted on Jan. 9, 2014, 7:44 p.m. by Femme_Fatale
First of all, I shall thank Epoch and/or YeaGo! for giving me some admin responsibilities. I'm quite happy knowing I can help this community further~
Now going through the keyword section and I'm noticing a few keywords that I don't think belong anymore. They are as follows:
- Landhome
- Substance
- Typecycling
I want to remove them, but before I do I want to make sure I'm not accidentally removing something important.
GoldGhost012 says... #3
Tappedout has a keyword sectiona keyword section?
According to MTG Salvation, Landhome and Substance are obsolete. Nothing shows up on a Gatherer search page.
Typecycling didn't come up at either Gatherer or MTG Salvation. Is that like an alternate type of cycling like Valley Rannet or Vedalken AEthermage ?
January 9, 2014 7:52 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #5
Oops. Meant to say "Tappedout has a keyword section?"
Pretty sure the keyword for Hundred-Handed One would be Monstrosity, since being monstrous only describes its condition.
January 9, 2014 7:54 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #6
infinitemana, a description about the two abilities from MTG Salvation:
Landhome: " It was originally a group of abilities (islandhome, mountainhome, and so on) that prevent the creature with the ability from being declared an attacker if the defending player controlled no lands of the appropriate type. Additionally, creatures with landhome are sacrificed if their controller doesn't control any lands of the appropriate type."
Substance: "Substance is an obsolete keyword ability that had no effect. Substance was introduced at the same time the Ravnica: City of Guilds set was released in 2005, but it was never printed on a Magic card. The ability was originally created to fix twelve cards that did not work the same way under post-Sixth Edition rules as they did when they were first printed... Substance was used to ensure that the permanents these cards created would always go to the graveyard during the cleanup step of the turn in which they were played. Under the rules at the time, the cards' original wordings of "at end of turn" would cause their effects to occur at the beginning of the end of turn step instead of the cleanup step; as a result, for example, if Armor of Thorns had been played as an instant, it would not save a 2/2 creature with 3 damage on it, because when the enchantment was put into the graveyard, the creature would still have the damage marked on it and would thus be destroyed as a state-based action. With the introduction of substance, instead of creating "at end of turn" triggers, the cards would grant themselves (or, in Waylay's case, the tokens it created) the substance ability until end of turn and create a delayed trigger that triggered when substance was lost (which occurred at the beginning of the next cleanup step), thereby letting the cards work the same way that players expected them to.
January 9, 2014 7:58 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #7
Whoa... wall of text alert. Geez, that's a surprisingly detailed ability for a keyword that doesn't exist.
January 9, 2014 7:59 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #8
It is there when upgraded users add/fix cards GoldGhost012. So I'll keep Typecycling, but remove the other two, and add Monstrosity.
I'll leave it alone for now for more debate if anyone wants to put in their cents.
January 9, 2014 7:59 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #9
Can you break keywords down into groups? Like sort the landwalking abilities under a landwalking header, put all the typecycling effects under cycling, ect... Just a thought.
January 9, 2014 8:01 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #10
I would assume that typecycling is the generic word for cycling of a certain kind of thing, as expressed on Vedalken AEthermage .
January 9, 2014 8:01 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #11
Landhome looks like a reverse Landwalk, and Substance makes really good sense for the purpose it was created. An interesting read.
January 9, 2014 8:02 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #12
Nope, it is just a list GoldGhost012. I don't think anyone uses the searches enough to warrant a heavy keywords list anyways. They generally just use gatherer.
Femme_Fatale says... #2
I added these keywords from the Theros set:
Also, would the keyword on Hundred-Handed One be listed as Monstrosity or Monstrous?
January 9, 2014 7:52 p.m.