Tappedout Youtube Channel?
TappedOut forum
Posted on Jan. 27, 2015, 7:54 p.m. by quesobueno123
How it could work is, a user submits their video to an experienced user, who could decide if it is worth posting, and then do final edits and post. I have access to Adobe primer video editing software, (cs6) and am well versed in it, and could edit. Is this possible? yeaGO
quesobueno123 says... #4
Cool. Let's see where it goes. Also misspelled premier.
January 27, 2015 7:58 p.m.
quesobueno123 says... #5
Also anyone who would want to make content it would be great if you have access to 1080p quality video, but it would be fine either way.
January 27, 2015 8:02 p.m.
The only problem is content. Users like yeaGO, Epochalyptik, and Ohthenoises already have NUMEROUS things they contribute to the site. This is not a site for product reviews or anything like that either. This is predominantly a deckbuilding site. People with channels such as TolarianCommunityCollege already do videos on certified channels. Why would users add more to the to-do list when it wouldn't be a key function of the site? Yes it would be cool, but how do they decide what videos are appropriate and not? It would be too much work for too little benefit in my opinion.
January 27, 2015 8:02 p.m.
quesobueno123 says... #9
Anything goes. I'm on here a lot and could run it if you think all the top ten users are overworked. Slovak and xzzane could help as they have both shown interest.
January 27, 2015 8:07 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #10
Dude, I cannot see your username, the colors are jacking up my eyes... but I too am well versed in Adobe Premier, (I am a broadcast journalist) and I have been thinking about doing my own channel on behalf of Tappedout, but this could be better. Give me a couple months to get back from Africa, and I can start putting together some content. I personally like to do a little bit of everything. I do deck techs mostly and I am beginning to dabble in "openings" of the sort.
Video articles that I have done in the past for T/O have been deck tech centric for format rotations, sleeper cards to invest in and how to build a tier 1 deck on a budget. Those video were done with CS3, though, and one of them came out kind of sketchy, but it was the first one.
Anyways, I have a pretty badass setup: Sweet HD professional gear, lights, a nice MTG desk/office area to lay things out on and some rad mics, (so if anyone is near me in North Carolina we can team up).
But yeah, gimme some time, and I will start pumping out content. I can more than likely ship a product out once per week. And 90 percent of the time it will be before friday so people can get some sweet tech for the weekend.
I have been wondering if the T/O community wanted me to start dropping video articles again...
January 27, 2015 8:08 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #11
I'm not concerned with who's running it right now. I'm concerned with even having content to post. You wouldn't use a site channel for personal deck techs, for example. Or product reviews. Those are things better suited to individual users.
January 27, 2015 8:08 p.m.
Maybe people could make deck tech videos? We could expand on things like the modern format primer through videos and whatnot.
January 27, 2015 8:09 p.m.
Well, slovakattack, VampireArmy, and myself are getting ready for a podcast type of thing right now, which will just include us talking about things as podcasts usually do.
January 27, 2015 8:10 p.m.
It actually will be on twitch. Slovak will be streaming.
January 27, 2015 8:11 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #18
Epochalyptik, would content that is relevant to T/O something in regards to, say Metagaming tips? Economics? Maybe some interesting brews? I would think a good use of deck techs on a page like this would be a prior video I did for T/O, where I took an existing archetype and made it rotation ready with cards from the new set and explained why, blah blah blah.
Just my few cents.
January 27, 2015 8:14 p.m.
i think the users with very highly rated decks should do deck techs on them
January 27, 2015 8:15 p.m.
I'm with Epoch. The most beneficial thing would be avid users covering site features. For example, Epoch telling people where Forums should be correctly posted...clearly people can't follow descriptions. Haha. Deck techs are too personal, things like Spootyone's Showdown series would be cool for a TwitchTV like setting where we could actually watch the games being played. Then we would have the issue of users trying to pump out mediocre content just to get on the channel...
January 27, 2015 8:16 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #21
trust me thats a bad idea. some decks that are the highest rated are made as a joke on this very site.
the good decks are well hidden.
January 27, 2015 8:16 p.m.
quesobueno123 says... #24
klone13 Sure, we could say any deck with over 125 upvotes is eligible for a deck tech.
January 27, 2015 8:17 p.m.
yeah other than the joke ones like islands, swamps, storm crows etc
January 27, 2015 8:18 p.m.
Don't get me wrong, I love watching users post content and getting good reviews, even giving a shoutout at the end of their personal videos to the community here and how it helps them. However, from the SITE's standpoint, I hold with my earlier post...too much work for too little reward.
January 27, 2015 8:18 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #28
hmmm, I guess then the Storm Crow deck is getting its own feature, Epochalyptik... the day has come. Lol.
Nah, I am kidding. But that would be a good start.
January 27, 2015 8:20 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #29
Scytec, my wife and I were just talking about starting an MTG related youtube channel with a good mix of everything, to include a monthly "opening" piece. MY plan was to just advertise it and, as you said, shout out to the T/O community for their awesomeness.
I can also see how its a lot of work for little reward. But honestly, I do news videos for a living, sitting in a chair and talking about something I care about is about as easy as it gets. I dont even care about getting "rewarded" for it. Shit, I used to give away my own cards from my collection to random users when I had videos posted here, lol. I just like giving back to a community that has helped me so much.
January 27, 2015 8:25 p.m.
slovakattack says... #30
gnarlicide: I'm hoping to do more stream videos like the ones I've been doing over the last few days. I'd like yer opinion on them, sometime.
January 27, 2015 8:32 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #31
Sure man, post a link to my page and I can check them out. I am in Liberia, so the connection is shitty at best... I think the interwebs got the Ebola.
January 27, 2015 8:34 p.m.
I could make a video explaining b/w tokens in depth. I could also debunk people's opinions on Monastery Mentor, which is something I've had to do like 40 times since it was spoiled. 4 times with the same person.
January 27, 2015 8:40 p.m.
@gnarlicide - When you get back to the states I'd love to help with that. I understand completely how you feel, but for people not in the profession, reviewing the no doubt HUNDREDS of videos submitted from users to the channel would be time consuming and annoying. If they decided to do it, they should put a committee together of a select few trusted users to gather and create the content. NOT just open it up to random submissions. I'm not saying the communuty can not contribute, but in order to do so, they should submit a request to said committee for content approval. After they get approval, and only then submit the video for final approval. This would seem to me to be the least intrusive way to do this.
January 27, 2015 8:43 p.m.
filledelanuit says... #34
This sounds like a really cool idea that requires a lot of work.
I like the idea of having deck techs but limiting deck tech to decks with a certain number of upvotes limits the decks to standard and casual decks as most Modern/EDH/Legacy decks don't have that many votes.
January 27, 2015 8:43 p.m.
quesobueno123 says... #35
xzzane Sure, if you film it email it to me at [email protected] and I will edit it and send it back to you, for use if this becomes a thing.
January 27, 2015 8:44 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #36
I guess what I'm getting at here is this: why would we have a site YouTube channel to support individual user videos? I'm perfectly capable of posting a deck tech to my own YouTube channel. That's not something a site channel is appropriate for, in my opinion. Likewise with product reviews, card reviews, speculation videos, and other opinion-based content.
January 27, 2015 8:45 p.m.
quesobueno123 says... #37
Epoch, like we are talking about it it would the all in one, go-to channel for new players, experienced players looking speculate on the new cards, find the perfect deck for FNM, or countless other things.
January 27, 2015 8:48 p.m.
@Epochalyptik - A much more concise and understandable version of what I was trying to say. :p Thank you. I have a hard time explaining myself. Haha
January 27, 2015 8:49 p.m.
@quesobueno123 - Other than the fact that yoi are trying to do it from the sites perspective...what would set you apart from already recognized broadcasters such as TolarianCommunityCollege?
January 27, 2015 8:51 p.m.
filledelanuit says... #40
@Epochalyptik The channel could serve as a general way for players to find random deck ideas and for users to find a bit of a voice in the MTG comunity. It also serves to advertise tappedout as a website.
We might be able to make some moolah (mollah?) for the site.
January 27, 2015 8:53 p.m.
quesobueno123 says... #41
It would not be just one person, it would be hundreds of users with great decks and advice all sharing their views in a place where the videos would get views, unlike on a one or two person channel.
January 27, 2015 8:54 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #42
We have very few users that I would say are qualified to serve as public figures in the MTG community. Yes, we have plenty of users capable of a 5-minute deck tech on their homebrew Standard decks, but when it comes to salient format observations or reliable economic advice, we're pretty light on content and contributors.
You can't just assume that hundreds of people will jump on board, or even that we have hundreds of people who could pass quality control and become spokespeople for the site. No offense to anyone here--I love this community--but what you want to do here is something normally done by pros (who typically write articles anyway) or by dedicated MTG channels like TCC.
January 27, 2015 8:57 p.m.
Well then we'd get the users that have been active and productive in certain formats and they would discuss those formats or anything to do with them. It probably wouldn't be super easy to round people up but it's doable.
January 27, 2015 9:01 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #44
I don't think upvotes would be a reasonable metric, because a lot of homebrew Standard decks aren't worth deck-teching and a lot of the most well-tuned, competitive decks (also known as the ones people want to see) are under the radar.
I feel like we have a lot of people who thoroughly understand formats, deckbuilding philosophies and certain archetypes very well, and I'd say we need some sort of intermediary system to judge whether or not a video reaches that level of quality. I agree that we don't want people who just say "this card Fleecemane Lion is very good because you can pay 5 mana to make it hexproof and indestructible".
January 27, 2015 9:03 p.m.
quesobueno123 says... #45
The thing is everyone writing articles could make videos easily and, people would know who they are, delektable already does make videos, which are already pretty solid. Just on this thread there are ~4 people who said they would. And as Lordofshadows said we could get money from it for the site.
January 27, 2015 9:03 p.m.
quesobueno123 says... #46
GlistenerAgent Sure, not upvotes how about well known users for specific archetypes like you for infect or xzzane for tokens.
January 27, 2015 9:06 p.m.
Epoch is right. If yeaGO were to allow access like that, he would be responsible for every single video posted to the channel. That is at the very least, a daunting level of trust for him to place in the community. One bad video going viral could tarnish both his and the sites reputation. Once again. I am not opposed to a private channel doing this and just adding that the site and community was a major benefit to them. You could possibly also convince yeaGO to add a link to your channel as a interesting place for new users or current users to find like minded individuals or help with particular formats or deck archetypes...but it would not be the sites channel, but rather a private channel he "supports" as a decent place to gather information.
January 27, 2015 9:07 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #48
You can't assume that people who write articles also have the capacity or the desire to make videos.
January 27, 2015 9:07 p.m.
quesobueno123 says... #49
Scytec yeago would trust gnarlcide, and his choice of "crew" only around ten people for quality control.
January 27, 2015 9:10 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #50
Here's my problem. Nothing that we can do through video isn't already done on the site. There is nothing T/O worthy of discussion on a youtube or twitch channel that isn't just as fine on a forum post. As for general magic discussion, there are already a tonne of people who already do everything we would do, so I see no reason why this would become more than a little pet project.
slovakattack says... #2
Neat. I'm interested.
January 27, 2015 7:56 p.m.