Upvoting yourself lowers avg deck rating?
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Posted on Oct. 14, 2015, 5:12 p.m. by Jimmy_Chinchila
So I looked at my average deck rating, then went through and +1'd the decks of mine other people had already upvoted. Went back and my avg deck rating dropped. How is that possible unless it lowers your rating for up voting your own deck? I didn't add any new decks, the sample size was the same and the number of votes total increased so why didn't the avg rating increase also?
If I'd have known we'd be penalized for +1ing our own decks I never would have, and you can't unvote...
The average deck rating only includes decks with an upvote score above a certain threshold. My guess would be that when you upvoted some of your own decks they passed the threshold and therefore started to count for the average calculation. This would have raised your sample size.
October 14, 2015 5:32 p.m.
Jimmy_Chinchila says... #5
ChiefBell,yeaGO ok thanks that makes sense.
DrFunk27 I dunno, cuz I can? You should check out Dane Cook's Oprah show bit, it's pretty funny. Everyone gets a blue whaaaaale! You get a blue whale! And you get a blue whale! Lol
October 14, 2015 6:04 p.m.
FancyTuesday says... #6
I remember trying to figure out how Avg Deck Rating was calculated so I could do the math myself and throw the result into my own table without having to display my stats table through inspect element, and for the life of me I don't know how it gets that number. I thought it might be the (sum score of all decks with >1 vote) / (# of decks with >1 vote) but that number is slightly higher than the displayed value. In my case it would be 95 / 8, but that's 11.75 and the displayed average is 11.62. I just gave up and only counted the decks I actually play and work on.
I vote for my own decks as a stamp of "yeah this is about ready." I spent months without having voted on them and nobody else did, after I voted others came rolling in. That jump from Unrated to 1 really seems to matter in terms of other people's willingness to upvote.
The option to do so makes sense to me. You're still a person, your vote still counts, naturally you're probably going to support your own deck idea but there are cases when you're just spitballing or the deck's incomplete where you wouldn't, so you can't take for granted that the user would always upvote their own decks so you leave it to them.
October 14, 2015 6:26 p.m.
Jimmy_Chinchila Hahaha, thank you. That was worth it. Also, I like it. This is America and you do what you want.
October 14, 2015 6:42 p.m.
Jimmy_Chinchila says... #8
FancyTuesday I do something similar since I make a deck everyday: just upvote ones I really like or think are unique or competitive. I also tend to upvote ones once someone else has, but now I know bringing it above 1 vote adds it to the sample size so I'll likely stop. Maybe if it gets to like 3 or 4 I'll upvote it. I'm glad all my 0 vote decks don't count into it, I make too many to cycle them all. The incomplete decks I usually just mark as prototype so people don't see it and think I'm an idiot lol.
I also agree decks get looked at more when they have at least one vote.
October 14, 2015 7:10 p.m.
I usually go ahead and upvote my decks. Typically, if I've put enough time into brewing a deck, and then uploading it here, then I like the deck. lol I upvote the other decks I like, why not my own?
October 14, 2015 7:48 p.m.
canterlotguardian says... #10
And you all were criticizing me for wanting to remove accidental upvotes on my decks.
October 14, 2015 7:51 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #11
The requirement for a deck to get into the average deck rating I believe is to have two upvotes that aren't yours.
October 14, 2015 9:24 p.m.
FancyTuesday says... #12
If that were the case then Jimmy_Chinchila upvoting his own deck would have no effect on his average rating, since the number of votes that aren't his would be unchanged.
The numbers don't follow when I apply that to my own decks either. If the threshold were 2 votes other than your own my average would be 16.17 (97/6), even if you subtract self-votes 16.17 (91/6) is nowhere near what TO calculates my average to be, 12.12. I assume it's taking an average of either 8 or 9 because 12.12 when multiplied by either is close enough to a round number that it can be explained with truncated/rounded numbers, and I have 8 decks where the score is >1. It's just slightly off when I add those up myself. 98/8 = 12.25, just over 12.12.
October 14, 2015 9:54 p.m.
Jimmy_Chinchila says... #13
I can say the decks I upvoted were primarily ones that had a score of 1, and I added the second. I think that it's assumed people will upvote their own decks from the start, so decks of scores 0-1 aren't included in calculation. When it gets a second vote, a second user had to have also voted so it becomes part of the sample population.
(total number of votes for all decks with at least 2 votes, regardless of who the votes are from)/(total number of decks with at least 2 votes) I would do my math but I refuse to do math outside of work, I do it all day and I like to give that portion of my brain a rest. :)
Maybe during lunch break...
October 14, 2015 10:13 p.m.
Hmm - it's awkward when you have like 10 decks with a 3 or 4 rating XD
DrFunk27 says... #2
Why the hell would you upvote yourself? lol This isn't Oprah Winfrey....YOU GET A VOTE AND YOU GET A VOTE! EVERYONE GETS A VOTE.
October 14, 2015 5:28 p.m.