Can a creature's own state-based effect happen before its EtB effect?

Asked by vic 5 months ago

I control a Master Biomancer and I play an Imperious Perfect. Can I make the Perfect come in with 3 counters? (Boosting the Biomancer first, receiving counters second)

Rhadamanthus says... Accepted answer #1

It will just get 2 counters. Master Biomancer's ability is a replacement effect (uses "as/with/instead/prevent") that modifies how other creatures enter the battlefield. When you're determining how many counters Imperious Perfect should enter the battlefield with, it isn't yet on the battlefield, so Master Biomancer just has 2 power.

If Master Biomancer's ability was a triggered ability (always starts with "when/whenever/at") then this would work, because Imperious Perfect would actually be on the battlefield when you're figuring out how many counters to add, but that's not the case here.

June 6, 2024 8:49 a.m.

vic says... #2

Rhadamanthus Excellent. Well done.

June 6, 2024 10:50 p.m.

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