Do counters count as permanents?

Asked by popeyroach 13 years ago

from +1/+1, -1/-1, loyalty counters, pooson counters etc.

SwiftDeath says... #1

no, not sure why or why not all i know is they are not permenents.

the only permenents are artifacts, enchantments, creatures, land, and planeswalkers.

January 21, 2011 3:57 a.m.

mafteechr says... Accepted answer #2

No.

110.1. A permanent is a card or token on the battlefield. A permanent remains on the battlefield indefinitely. A card or token becomes a permanent as it enters the battlefield and it stops being a permanent as its moved to another zone by an effect or rule.

121.1. A counter is a marker placed on an object or player that modifies its characteristics and/or interacts with a rule, ability, or effect. Counters are not objects and have no characteristics. Notably, a counter is not a token, and a token is not a counter. Counters with the same name or description are interchangeable.

January 21, 2011 10:18 a.m.

emblasochist says... #3

Counters are exactly that. Counters are used to denote something that is not represented by tokens. Such things are +1/+1 counters or the like, Poison counters, charge counters, etc that can change permanently, but are not actual cards, and thus, not permanents.

January 21, 2011 11:51 a.m.

popeyroach says... #4

thanks for clearing this matter up. there will be no more arguments over what can be sacrificed when eldrazis hit the battlefield :)

January 21, 2011 7:12 p.m.

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