If I cast Overwhelming Stampede on Nacatl War Pride then attack with the nacatl does the tokens get the bonus?
Asked by shamanicgreen 14 years ago
Does Overwhelming Stampede affect the tokens put into play by [Nacatl-War-Pride]]'s effect?
If I play Overwhelming Stampede and then attack with Nacatl War-Pride do the tokens that come into play get buffed?
xeratheenigma says... #2
im pretty sure that the war pride's tokens won't get the +X/+X buff because they were not on the battlefield when overwhelming stampede resolved.
November 25, 2010 12:02 a.m.
611.2c If a continuous effect generated by the resolution of a spell or ability modifies the characteristics or changes the controller of any objects, the set of objects it affects is determined when that continuous effect begins. After that point, the set wont change. (Note that this works differently than a continuous effect from a static ability.) A continuous effect generated by the resolution of a spell or ability that doesnt modify the characteristics or change the controller of any objects modifies the rules of the game, so it can affect objects that werent affected when that continuous effect began.
Example: An effect that reads All white creatures get +1/+1 until end of turn gives the bonus to all permanents that are white creatures when the spell or ability resolves even if they change color laterand doesnt affect those that enter the battlefield or turn white afterward.
Sorry to burst your bubble there. Maybe Might of the Masses instead?
November 25, 2010 12:11 a.m.
but overwhelming stampede says until end of tern creators you control get +X/+X. its the same thing if you play a creator with haste after you play overwelming stampede so as long as they are under your control they should get the buff.
November 25, 2010 12:15 a.m.
hamburgers says... #5
You would be wrong, iamMark. Seigfried wins this one.
November 25, 2010 12:17 a.m.
SwiftDeath says... #7
however because you are getting tokens that are copies of nacatl war pride they have the power/toughness of nacatl when he attacks not his origional power toughness they just don't get an extra boost from overwelming stampede.
November 25, 2010 12:22 a.m.
I'm not sure that they do get the buff. I think this begs a new question:
When a creature is copied, are any effects that creature is affected by at the time copied as well?
November 25, 2010 2:19 a.m.
hamburgers says... #9
The copiable characteristics of a card are what is printed on it, it's (base) P + T, CMC, things like that. For example, if you Clone / Quicksilver Gargantuan a Mutavault / Creeping Tar Pit, you end up with a non activated land. You can't even abuse a 7/7 unblockable land, because if you gargantuan a creeping tar pit, it becomes a 3/2 :(. So Overwhelming stampede would be rather durrrr with the nactal, run Might of the Masses instead.
iamMark says... #1
yes overwhelming stampede says until the end of tern, so creators that where not there when overwhelming stampede was played would still get the buff. so every creator will get the +x,+x buff. thats a great combo by the way.
November 24, 2010 11:39 p.m.