If I had Summoner's Egg and Endless Whispers out and the egg dies and becomes my opponent's creature what would happen when it dies again?

Asked by Resurrector_of_the_Soulslayer 13 years ago

If I had card:Summoner's Egg and Endless Whispers in play and the egg dies and becomes my opponents creature what would happen when it dies again? Does the controller of the egg get the creature? Or does the owner of the graveyard it goes into get the creature?

MagnorCriol says... Accepted answer #1

Nothing, actually. When the egg leaves the battlefield the first time, it forgets everything about its first existence on the battlefield - including the card that was imprinted with it.

Here's the interesting part: Because the egg's Imprint trigger is worded "when this creature enters the battlefield," that means your opponent will actually get to do Imprint themselves when they get the Egg from the graveyard thanks to Whispers. They get to exile a DIFFERENT card and (assuming it's a creature) put that one on the battlefield when the egg dies.

So it ends up looking like this:

  1. You cast card:Summoner's Egg.

  2. It resolves and enters the battlefield. You exile a creature card with Imprint.

  3. The egg dies somehow. It goes to your graveyard, and two separate triggered abilities are put on the stack: the Egg's ability that puts the exiled card out there, and Endless Whispers ' ability that lets you choose an opponent.

  4. You put the card you exiled on the battlefield. You choose Opponent Bob to get the Egg.

  5. Opponent Bob puts card:Summoner's Egg from the graveyard onto the battlefield on their side.

  6. Because the egg is entering the battlefield, they exile a card in their hand face-down for Imprint.

  7. Rinse, rather, repeat.

February 9, 2011 12:15 p.m.

Ok another question about endless whispers: what happens if I have a token that dies? I know the token goes to the graveyard but does it exile before my opponent would get control of the token?

February 9, 2011 12:30 p.m.

MagnorCriol says... #3

I believe that state-based actions are checked and the token exiled before the trigger would resolve to put it onto the battlefield, but I'm not 100% certain at the moment. I'll go read the comp rules to double-check.

February 9, 2011 1:01 p.m.

MagnorCriol says... #4

That took less time than I thought. Yes, the token gets exiled before they get it. State-based actions are checked (and thus tokens exiled from the graveyard) before things resolve from the stack. So if a token dies while Whispers was out there, it'd go to the graveyard, which puts Whispers' triggered ability on the stack, then state-based actions exile the token, then Whispers' ability tries to resolve. Without anything to affect, it fizzles.

February 9, 2011 1:09 p.m.

Nice! Thank you so much! I'm using endless whispers with the new liveing weapons and I didn't want to give my opponent the tokens to chump block my creatures lol or his creatures.

February 9, 2011 1:19 p.m.

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