If Scion of the Ur-Dragon copies a dragon will its damage still count as general damage?
Asked by pookie 13 years ago
If you are using Scion of the Ur-Drago as your general in EDH, and you use his ability to copy a Dragon in your graveyard then attack, does the attack (ie: Scion copied Nicol Bolas) still count as general damage?
I'm not entirely sure, I haven't really "studied" the EDH (now Commander) rules.
My guess though is that it should count as general damage, as the source of your damage IS the general, even if it's copying something else.
February 8, 2011 5:32 a.m.
706.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original objects characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The copiable values are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, card type, subtype, supertype, expansion symbol, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by as . . . enters the battlefield and as . . . is turned face up abilities that set characteristics, and by abilities that caused the object to be face down. Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, and counters are not copied.
it will copy the dragon's name, thus not going towards the general damage.
however you can use it to dump dragons, and the use a patriarch bidding to return them, with a karthus.
February 8, 2011 6:18 a.m.
it says that it becomes that dragon, thus overwriting its supertype : general.
In edh/commander, the general have the supertype General. (his is why it's distinguished from the same creature in an opp's deck).
February 8, 2011 6:20 a.m.
From http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php: Being a Commander is not a characteristic[MTG CR109.3], it is a property of the card. As such, "Commander-ness" cannot be copied or overwritten by continuous effects, and does not change with control of the card. They go on to give the example of a general turned face-down still being a general. Basically, as long as it is the card you have said is your general, the combat damage it deals counts toward your general damage for that player.
Jimmuh says... #1
Scion of the Ur-Dragon
February 8, 2011 5:31 a.m.