Is a copy of creature produce come into play effects?

Asked by zcborst 13 years ago

Im working on a deck and the only issue Im having is whether copying a creature on the battlefield constitutes that creature entering play.

Tempting Wurm When Tempting Wurm enters the battlefield, each opponent may put any number of artifact, creature, enchantment, and/or land cards from his or her hand onto the battlefield.

So if I enchant it with:

Splinter Twin Enchanted creature has ": Put a token that's a copy of this creature onto the battlefield. That token has haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step."

and tap it...?

Siegfried says... Accepted answer #1

Tempting Wurm Splinter Twin

Yes, the ability triggers. Creature tokens count as creatures entering the battlefield when they come into play.

December 11, 2010 9:24 a.m.

brianguymtg says... #2

Then you play Day of Judgment and Armageddon . Ha.

December 11, 2010 11 a.m.

MagnorCriol says... #3

Note that simply the act of copying a creature doesn't necessarily trigger "enters the battlefield" effects. The specific wording of Splinter Twin is what allows that, because it says "put a token onto the battlefield..."

Some other copy cards won't do it, though. Renegade Doppelganger or Unstable Shapeshifter , for instance; they are already on the battlefield when they copy a creature. If you use one of them to copy a Lone Missionary as it enters the battlefield, the Doppelganger-Missionary won't gain you 4 life, since it's not entering the battlefield.

December 11, 2010 12:14 p.m.

peppyhare says... #4

Tokens also get graveyard triggers. They just get removed from the game instantly afterwards. That's probably worth knowing too if you're making a deck around copying things.

December 11, 2010 1:47 p.m.

djdauenbaugh says... #5

@peppy can you explain the "graveyard triggers." I don't fully understand how that works. Thanks

December 11, 2010 2:09 p.m.

Siegfried says... #6

Something like Deathgreeter is commonly referred to as a graveyard trigger. Any effect that triggers from another card being put into the graveyard, usually from the battlefield

December 11, 2010 2:58 p.m.

MagnorCriol says... #7

Some things, such as Goblin Arsonist or Perilous Myr , have abilities that trigger when they hit the graveyard. If you Splinter Twin them and create a token, when you sac it (or it's just killed normally), it goes to the graveyard just like any other creature, thus triggering those abilities. THEN the token disappears as a state-based action (tokens can't exist anywhere other than the battlefield), but it does exist in the grave long enough to trigger those abilities.

December 11, 2010 3 p.m.

NoSkillManiac says... #8

note that Splinter Twin says exile, so you'd have to have a Viscera Seer to do anything with them.

December 11, 2010 10:04 p.m.

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