Scute Swarm and Callidus Assassin Interaction

Asked by OxygenDestroyer65 9 months ago

If I cast Callidus Assassin and destroy a Scute Swarm, how do I handle the copies that will be created when I put lands onto the battlefield if I control 6 or more lands? Do I create a copy of the "scute" Callidus, which then enters as a copy of something else and destroys whatever I decide to copy? I don't think each Callidus copy retains the Scute's ability to copy itself, except the first one. I might be overcomplicating this. Thank you!

Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1

Copiable values of an object are the printed values of the object as modified by previous copy effects, facedown status, and replacement effects that set P/T. Callidus Assassin's own copy effect made it exactly Scute Swarm with the added ability "When this creature enters the battlefield, destroy up to one other target creature with the same name as this creature." So the token copies made by the landfall ability are exactly Scute Swarm with the added ability "When this creature enters the battlefield, destroy up to one other target creature with the same name as this creature."

707.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object’s characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The copiable values are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by its face-down status, and by “as . . . enters the battlefield” and “as . . . is turned face up” abilities that set power and toughness (and may also set additional characteristics). Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, counters, and stickers are not copied.

February 19, 2024 3:58 a.m.

Got it - so on each landfall trigger it would keep creating Scute Swarm copies that have the added ability to destroy a Scute Swarm on etb?

February 19, 2024 1:16 p.m.

Gidgetimer says... #3

Correct.

February 19, 2024 5:37 p.m.

Great thank you!

February 19, 2024 11:15 p.m.

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