The math on Chameleon Colossus?

Asked by misshepeshu 14 years ago

So, I'm kind of embarrassed to ask this, because I feel like I should know the answer, but hey, the last math class I took was 14 years ago.... Anyway, can anyone express the math on Chameleon Colossus in terms of a function? It's easy enough to do if you have, say, 12 mana and he's only a 4/4, but what if he's been pumped up to a 7/7 and you have (thanks to Omnath, Locus of Mana , or Upwelling , or some other nefarious means) 200 mana lying around? I've tried to figure it out, and my puny brain has failed. Can anyone who's taken Algebra II a lot more recently than I have help me out with this?

Leardawg says... #1

You are not quite getting it, the first time you pay it he get's +4/+4, the second time you pay it his power would be 8 so he would get +8/+8 and so on down the line. With 12 mana he would end up as a 32/32 beat stick, especially if you have a way to give him trample.

August 20, 2010 9:55 p.m.

KrazyCaley says... #2

y = mana in the mana pool, assuming you have enough green and that the mana amount is a multiple of four.

x = Chameleon Colossus' final power

z = Chameleon Colossus' current power, before you start buffing him using his ability (usually 4)

x = z to the (2y/4).

Sorry, the exponent caret doesn't work in our comment formatter.

August 20, 2010 11:34 p.m.

nammertime says... #3

What KC said.

August 21, 2010 7:36 a.m.

squire1 says... #4

should be able to simplify the exponent if the function is correct, to 1y/2 or 1/2*y

August 21, 2010 8:52 a.m.

Jimmer says... #5

If you had 201 mana, you could cast Overwhelming Stampede instead of activating his ability for the last time.

August 21, 2010 9:12 p.m.

KrazyCaley says... #6

Squire = good point.

x = z to the (y/2)

August 21, 2010 9:45 p.m.

cardcoin says... #7

200 mana, costing 4 mana a turn....

200 / 4 = 50 activations 50 x (creature power & toughness x 2)

so a creature with 4/4 would have it's p/t doubled 50 times...

Power/Toughness to the power of 50 = 4503599627370496/4503599627370496 creature... Now, where's that fog i had in my hand? lol

August 21, 2010 10:06 p.m.

sporkife says... #8

this, kids, is why they invented Fog Bank . :D

August 21, 2010 10:27 p.m.

nammertime says... #9

But... I have a Primal Rage and an Everlasting Torment in play.

OH NOEZ

August 21, 2010 10:31 p.m.

Darkness1835 says... #10

Thats rediculous.

August 22, 2010 2:54 a.m.

Vorxis says... #11

... Terminate !

August 22, 2010 3:36 a.m.

KrazyCaley says... #12

PROTECTION FROM BLACK!

August 22, 2010 5:05 a.m.

Vorxis says... #13

You know, that's the second time in about an hour I haven't read a card properly. I definitely need glasses.

August 22, 2010 5:32 a.m.

sporkife says... #14

try reading Ice Cauldron without glasses >.>

August 22, 2010 11:20 a.m.

KrazyCaley says... #15

The only reason I remember that is because I've tried to Terminate it many a time only to pull my hair out.

August 22, 2010 8:15 p.m.

nammertime says... #16

Omg I didn't even notice the protection.

August 22, 2010 9:32 p.m.

$ªmHεiπ says... Accepted answer #17

OK - I'm gonna be the math police on this one.

f(x,y) = x * ( 2 to the (y / 4) )

where

y => mana in pool (multiple of 4, 1/2 green)

x => current Power of CC

KC's eqation would give you a power of 16 for 4 mana.

@squire Master's in Math education? Get a real degree :)

August 23, 2010 11:37 a.m.

squire1 says... #18

@$ªmHεiπ- I said that I didn't check it for accuracy. I just said that you should check. So :P.

and...

yeah some other insults...

August 23, 2010 11:58 a.m.

sporkife says... #19

@$ªmHεiπ: is it bad that i'm taking calc 2 in college this semester and I couldn't figure out that equation last night? :P

in any case, using the fixed equation, with an initial power of 4 and 200 mana: 4503599627370496

with an initial power of 7 and 200 mana: 7881299347898368

In other words, a lot.

August 23, 2010 5:24 p.m.

$ªmHεiπ says... #20

@sporkife maybe, just a teensie bit :)

August 23, 2010 6:17 p.m.

squire1 says... #21

don't feed it. Tell him he's lame for having the time to work it out. Much love:)

August 23, 2010 6:30 p.m.

sporkife says... #22

TI-89 Titanium. Best. Friend. Ever.

August 24, 2010 4:23 p.m.

Cirrus says... #23

Apparently you've never used Wolfram Mathematica. It has SOOOOO much power!! It's like having a tame, extremely-literal-minded math-god under your control.

August 27, 2010 3:18 p.m.

$ªmHεiπ says... #24

http://www.wolframalpha.com/ and its free!

try asking it "what is the meaning of life" or "what is the weight of the earth divided by the total population of earth".

August 30, 2010 5:37 p.m.

Zylo says... #25

8 | sporkife says...

10:27 p.m. on August 21, 2010

this, kids, is why they invented Fog Bank . :D

9 | nammertime says...

10:31 p.m. on August 21, 2010

But... I have a Primal Rage and an Everlasting Torment in play. OH NOEZ

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

@sporkife and nammertime

Actually, as long as it had trample anything that would just prevent the damage to the blocking creature such as Fog Bank or even Guard Gomazoa wouldn't help and you wouldn't even need Everlasting Torment . This is because when a creature has trample it assigns first damage equal to the blocking creature's toughness and the rest to the defending player, so even if you have a Fog Bank blocking a 999/999 with trample, a whole 2 damage would be prevented to the Fog Bank and then 997 damage would still be dealt to the defending player.

On a side note.... Smite anyone? (It's not black, and yes it would kill Chameleon Colossus before damage is dealt.)

August 31, 2010 11:13 p.m.

brianguymtg says... #26

@sporkife: TI-89 is indeed the best thing ever to happen to nerds (or lazy people, or those with a need to do math)

October 25, 2010 12:21 a.m.

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