what happens if you have an Abyssal Persecutor out and you play a Platinum Angel?

Asked by Kalani 14 years ago

and/or vice versa?

Shyachi33 says... Accepted answer #1

it just means no one can win, and no one can lose, till one or the other is destroyed/sac'ed/removed/bounced back to hand.

November 12, 2010 4:35 a.m.

Shyachi33 says... #2

give them indestructibility!! and you got yourself a stalemate!!!!

November 12, 2010 4:37 a.m.

MagnorCriol says... #3

They don't conflict with each other, actually, so as Shyachi said they'd both simply ensure that no one can win and no one can lose.

Though for it to truly be a foolproof (in-game) stalemate, you'd need to make them indestructible, get them shroud, and have a Tajuru Preserver on your side as well. And even then someone could still just stack enough Shrivel s or Infest s or the like, untargeted -X/-X spells, until the Angel choked.

Nothing is truly invulnerable in MTG. Except the mighty Chimney Imp . But we all know he's just broken.

November 12, 2010 4:51 a.m.

Shyachi33 says... #4

regenerate FTW! lol

and what about chimney imp? am i just missing something? or is it a joke?

November 12, 2010 5 a.m.

sporkife says... #5

don't worry, it's a joke. And i'm pretty sure a hard nobody-can-lose-or win lock with Abyssal Persecutor and Platinum Angel would require at least 4 other cards (educated guess) and as such be slightly counterproductive.

November 12, 2010 8:33 a.m.

Siegfried says... #6

true. You'd rather use those 6 cards to win the game rather than stall it, right?

November 12, 2010 9:05 a.m.

sporkife says... #7

I would. Dunno about everyone else.

November 12, 2010 10:02 a.m.

DeckBuilder345 says... #8

i dunno i could potentially see a situation where it would be kinda funny to completely stale mate a game.... besides which if you can get rid of your prosecutor, then the opponents would eventually deck themselves.

November 12, 2010 12:08 p.m.

DeckBuilder345 says... #9

hmmmm... that is almost a deck idea.... painfully slow death by decking!

November 12, 2010 12:09 p.m.

Legendinc says... #10

you could give both Abyssal Persecutor & Platinum Angel Savage Silhouette as and added defense, or until you get the cards to give them shroud or indestructibility

then just regenerate them if they somehow get killed

November 12, 2010 12:28 p.m.

Shyachi33 says... #11

ahahaha, the stalemate deck idea reminded me of one of my friend's stupid suicide deck. he just filled the entire deck with all 0 cast cards, and 4 of each pact cards, so it's a first turn suicide deck, it's the most emptiest victory ever

November 12, 2010 1:13 p.m.

Deco_y says... #12

Storm Crow is strictly better then Chimney Imp

November 12, 2010 1:27 p.m.

MagnorCriol says... #13

False. You forget about Chimney Imp 's debilitating hand-reduction ability, which destroyed so many otherwise game-winning combos. Does Storm Crow have that kind of power? I think not, sir.

Also, as for regeneration: Don't forget that a -X/-X doesn't destroy a creature. It reduces toughness to 0, which means the creature's picked up and dumped in the grave by the next state-based action check - and since it's not destroyed, a regeneration shield won't save it.

November 12, 2010 1:47 p.m.

i still get a boner every time i see the persecutor's mana cost O.o

November 12, 2010 5:24 p.m.

Dracog says... #15

All of you are wrong, if you sucessfully stick Abyssal Persecutor and Platinum Angel , the Universe implodes :)

November 12, 2010 8:45 p.m.

Bradstah says... #16

since neither of you can win or lose.... does decking really resolve this?

November 14, 2010 2:31 a.m.

emblasochist says... #17

Only once you remove one or the other, does the decking do anything. If you remove the (Abyssal Persecutor), you win. If you remove the (Platinum Angel), you lose.

December 20, 2010 6:07 p.m.

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