What's the deal with multiple Precursor Golems?
Asked by Kalani 13 years ago
So I just played a game where I had three precursor golems and the 6 vanilla 3/3 golems that come with them out, and i cast Irresistible Prey on them. I Think i draw somewhere in the range of 23-24 cards, can anybody confirm this or show the math. my brain hurts... How many times is a spell copied?
alphacloud says... #2
a spell is copied for each other targetable golem on the field
February 15, 2011 6:35 p.m.
cnielsen05 says... Accepted answer #3
I believe each of your 3 Precursor Golem s generates one instance of that effect. This means that you get 3 copies of the spell for each other golem on the field, plus your original one. By this math, you should get 8 Golems (the original one doesn't count) times 3 copies = 24 copies, plus your original 1 = 25 copies of Irresistible Prey for 25 card draw.
February 15, 2011 7:14 p.m.
MagnorCriol says... #4
cnielsen05 is correct. When you cast the spell targeting one of the golems, each Precursor on the field copies it for everyone. 1 original spell
8 copies for each golem from Precursor A
8 copies for each golem from Precursor B
8 copies for each golem from Precursor C
= 25 instances of Irresistible Prey , so 25 cards drawn.
Do note that this means that every golem other than the one you target will get three copies of the spell; the golem you target will get left out, only getting one copy, your original. This doesn't mean anything for Irresistible Prey , but if, say, you were casting Giant Growth , that's a pretty significant impact. (Or, better yet, Mirran Mettle ...)
February 15, 2011 7:29 p.m.
cnielsen05 says... #5
Thank you for the better formatting and clear explanation MagnorCriol, its much easier to read than mine was haha.
February 15, 2011 7:33 p.m.
MagnorCriol says... #6
Also, whatever you do in your situation there, DON'T cast a kicked Rite of Replication targeting one of the Precursor Golem s. The math makes your head explode.
February 15, 2011 7:39 p.m.
cnielsen05 says... #7
Haha, several generations of exponential growth for the win!
February 15, 2011 7:44 p.m.
alphacloud says... #8
whoops wasnt payin attention to how many precursors were on the field
February 15, 2011 7:55 p.m.
Huh? There is no exponential growth here. Read the start of Precursor Golem 's second ability: "Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery" etc. The copying only occurs once with the initial casting of the spell, 8 copies of Irresistible Prey go on the stack after the original, they all resolve and you draw 9 cards. alphacloud had the right answer.
February 15, 2011 11:19 p.m.
NoSkillManiac says... #10
I think MagnorCriol is correct here, because of each golem triggers off for that one that is targeted.
Also, Don't Prototype Portal a Precursor Golem , it makes your head explode if they keep it going.
February 15, 2011 11:35 p.m.
...right, all the golems trigger. Oops. I saw someone saying exponential and kinda responded on automatic =P. Yes, MagnorCriol has it right.
February 16, 2011 12:18 a.m.
phyrexianpotater says... #12
this made my brain hurt. what a bad ass combo though.
February 16, 2011 12:49 a.m.
yeah so i drew 25 cards and then with half my library for my hand I cast Withstand Death on the golems, then Day of Judgment to kill all other creatures. then attacke and cast kicked Vines of Vastwood for the ultra overkill win.
February 16, 2011 1:35 a.m.
phyrexianpotater says... #14
thats like 2608201836923546 damage right there. god i love magic.
February 16, 2011 1:38 a.m.
papabearcia1 says... #15
if you cast Spread the Sickness it would proliferate 25 times.
February 16, 2011 2:16 a.m.
haha my new mssion is to build a precursor golem infect deck that tutors up golems, then uses Tainted Strike or Spread the Sickness on them!!
February 16, 2011 2:27 a.m.
Actually, it only proliferates 9 times (which is totally enough anyway). 2/3 of your copies would fizzle after the Golems got destroyed by the first spell.
February 16, 2011 3:05 a.m.
theemptyquiver says... #19
An answer within a answer about a question about a question?
February 16, 2011 3:08 a.m.
papabearcia1 says... #20
yea I got the idea at release when I cast Spread the Sickness on a Precursor Golem and the judge said it would proliferate 3 times. It was epic. Corrupt works along with, Corpsehatch etc. Distortion Strike with precursor golem is game right their. Emerge Unscathed since it copies you should be able to chose three different colors and all golems would gain protection from the three. Lol Kuldotha Rebirth on a precursor.
February 16, 2011 3:18 a.m.
papabearcia1 says... #21
he is right it would only copy 9 times, so corpsehatch wouldnt work, and corrupt never would have worked, dont know why I put it.
February 16, 2011 3:32 a.m.
boo well i wish i hadn't just stayed up making this deck: Precursor to Poisonous Proliferation
but i guess it's still hilarious :)
Just need to splash green to cast Withstand Death on them first i guess.
alphacloud says... #1
well 6+3 is 9. so you draw 9 cards
February 15, 2011 6:26 p.m.