When two or more permanents enter the battlefield at the same time, do cards get a bonus of one or two?
Asked by DofusTal 13 years ago
So lets say I play hada freeblade, but then play join the ranks later, does hada freeblade get two +1/+1 counters, or just one?
Not that you can respond to an instant by playing a creature...
Join the Ranks gives Hada Freeblade 2 more +1/+1 counters. His ability checks for a specific trigger, namely an Ally creatures entering the battlefield. With Join the Ranks, 2 of these triggers occur, thus 2 more counters.
Join the Ranks makes things complicated when an Ally ability checks for the number of Allies you control (Halimar Excavator , Ondu Cleric ). As far as I'm aware, you will have 2 triggers for abilities which BOTH count the new tokens as being on the field for their abilities.
January 25, 2011 8:47 a.m.
π_is_the_word says... #3
@Siegfried I agree with you, Hada Freeblade checks for an ally coming into play, it sees both allies and Freeblade's ability triggers twice.
January 25, 2011 9:41 a.m.
theemptyquiver says... #4
Hagra Diabolist x4 put into play simultaneously (say from a Mass Polymorph ) is a popular example of multiple allies entering at once, and how crazy-powerful it can be.
January 25, 2011 9:50 a.m.
π_is_the_word says... #5
I used to play a deck where the win condition was Halimar Excavator with Rite of Replication kicked. Then the Legendary Eldrazi were released and the deck became bad(okay it was already bad, it became worse).
chuck137 says... #1
You can never play the cards "at the same time" because they have to go onto the stack one at a time. So if you play Join the Ranks out first on the stack then Hada Freeblade , the stack will resolve the Hada Freeblade first, then Join the Ranks
So Hada Freeblade will get +1/+1 for itself coming into play, then it will get another +1/+1 for each ally spawned by Join the Ranks so a total of +3/+3
But if you put Hada Freeblade on the stack first, and then Join the Ranks . it would resolve, and you would end up with 2 ally tokens, then the freeblade. So the freeblade would only get +1/+1 for himself.
I hope that made sense...
January 25, 2011 8:24 a.m.