Whose onus is it to make sure the monarchy passes on after the monarch loses the game?

Asked by Yesterday 3 days ago

If I'm playing a game of Judge Tower and am the monarch and lose the game, the next player in turn order is meant to become the monarch.

Also for the sake of argument, in the variant where card 'ownership' matters, another one of my opponents has taken control of a vanilla creature I own with Confiscate, and that permanent should be exiled when I lose the game.

Also also, another one of my opponents has my other vanilla creature exiled under their Banishing Light, which when I lose, should be... exiled.

I forget about all of, or perhaps chose not to perform any of these interactions. We all hate our lives and there is for some reason a fifth player in the game who I haven't interacted with, and they spot all of this. Who loses?

Rhadamanthus says... #1

I found a couple of slightly conflicting explanations of the exact rules of Judge Tower. Some sources say a player loses if they "commit a game rule violation" and others say something like "make a mistake" or "break any rules". If it's really based on making a GRV then that's actually a softer interpretation than what Judge Tower is probably meant to be, since "Game Play Error - Game Rule Violation" doesn't include the other separately-defined GPE of Missed Trigger, among other things (Looking at Extra Cards, Hidden Card Error, Mulligan Procedure, Failure to Maintain Game State).

In that context, I think the intent of Judge Tower is to count any GPE as a loss, including any errors involving the rules of Judge Tower itself regarding playing cards, activating abilities etc. In that case if it's clear no one other than the fifth player noticed the issues before they pointed it out then everyone other than the fifth player loses, since you did GPE-GRV by not removing the cards you "owned" from the game when you lost and the other players besides the fifth did GPE-FtMGS by not noticing the problems and continuing to play instead of fixing them.

February 19, 2025 10:32 a.m. Edited.