would wall of frost tap a double strike creature before it can kill the wall?
Asked by zigkid3 13 years ago
says there's a 4/4 double strike creature, and it attacks. i block with Wall of Frost . first it does its first strike damage to the wall. doe he tap before he can do his normal combat damage and kill the wall?
The only problem I have with tappy things is that you can't do it in response to an attack. Tideforce Elemental i actually much better for playing offensively, as you can use him to tap all of the defending player's creatures before blockers are declared (assuming you can fuel the landfall). For defense, Guard Gomazoa would be a more solid chouce.
December 13, 2010 6:32 p.m.
KrazyCaley says... Accepted answer #3
To answer your question:
Wall of Frost 's ability will prevent the creature it blocked from untapping regardless of whether and when it takes lethal damage in combat. As soon as you declared it as a blocker, the creature it blocked will not untap next time around.
Just be sure that you're clear that Wall of Frost doesn't actually TAP the creature it blocks, it just prevents it from untapping during the controller's next untap step.
December 13, 2010 6:47 p.m.
MagnorCriol says... #4
Once a creature starts attacking, it's already tapped. Unless it has vigilance, but even so, tapping a creature once it's been declared as an attacker doesn't prevent them from doing damage. You need to find a way to tap the attacker BEFORE attackers are declared.
Also, as NoSkill pointed out, the Wall only keeps a creature tapped next untap step; it doesn't tap them on its own.
December 13, 2010 6:51 p.m.
MagnorCriol says... #5
I need to answer faster or refresh the page to double-check before I post something. When I started thinking about an answer there was only NoSkill's response. =p
December 13, 2010 6:53 p.m.
Actually I'm pretty sure you can tap a creature in response to it declaring an attack. It will tap the creature and that creature won't attack.
December 14, 2010 9:42 a.m.
KrazyCaley says... #7
@alblaster-
You can tap a creature BEFORE it is declared as an attacker, thus preventing it from attacking, but you can't tap a creature in response to it being declared as an attacker. Once the guy's declaring attackers, nothing you can do.
NoSkillManiac says... #1
First, Wall of Frost assumes the attacking creature doesn't have vigilance, cause it says "That creature doesn't untap during it's controller's next untap step."
Second, No, your Wall of Frost is dead, because it doesn't force tap anything. Your best bet would be to use a Tideforce Elemental .
December 13, 2010 6:20 p.m.