Goblin decks are so much fun. I struggled with trying to build an EDH deck using only old frame cards until an old frame variant of Krenko was printed...during my last game with friends, that deck absolutely rocked, just because I had subbed out the previous commander.

I'm reminded I don't have a copy of Kaervek's torch...mirage is my favorite set, mostly due to the beautiful artwork, and I'd love to own a complete set of it one day.

As much as I love EDH, I like to pretend it's still 2004 and planeswalkers were never a thing. I feel like that's when a lot of aspects of MTG started to drift away from what I considered to be the "essence" of the game. The new card frames in particular just remind me of Apple's window frames or the look of Pokemon cards. MTG cards, in my opinion, should look like old Tarot cards you might find in a curiosity shop in New Orleans.

I appreciate the shorter length of 60-card games; if you aren't willing to devote at least 2 hours to an EDH game then for a lot of people that becomes an issue. My favorite thing about the EDH format is that it forces players to research obscure cards and use them because you can't just have four of the best card in a deck. It definitely changes the game fundamentally from what it was designed to be, but the fact that WotC has essentially subsumed a player-created format due to its popularity definitely says something about the ability of players to contribute to the evolution of the game's design.

I'd forgotten Multani also had shroud...one issue I often have building old frame EDH decks is that I prefer to use legendary creatures rather than commanders (the only old frame planeswalker I'm using atm is Elspeth for a soldier deck, and not having access to "destroy target planeswalker" makes removal into a combat-based thing, which makes that deck do better against my other old frame decks that only use legendary creatures).

Thanks for the clarification. I've got a dozen of these old frame only decks I've been meaning to upload here, and I'm having more fun doing so than I expected. :)

Very interesting concept...I always liked the idea of Multani, but never thought of building a deck like this. I only build EDH decks but I've been curious about getting into 60-card decks, maybe building a Guay artist tribal first to get my feet wet.

Never mind my dumb question - I've listed it as Commander/EDH

I'm new to the site; I assumed it should be listed as casual since it doesn't obey a particular card list like vintage, etc. I notice "singleton" isn't an option for listing the deck in the editor. What would you recommend I list it as?